Second year of season rewards I am missing and people still get away with int feeding

ScrubRogue·Oct 16, 2019·27 votes·13,860 views

Over a year ago I verbally retaliated to one of the many players who target harass me by intentionally feeding my games because of my champion choices. I was rightfully banned due to my unkind words and general contempt of how annoying it was to be a Shaco player in league of legends. I have returned to play due to my excitement that my favorite characters kit is being returned to its former glory. It is difficult to play competitive league of legends at high elo's while maining this character because nobody wants to actually play the game with you. People decide that the game is over before it begins and run it down in a way that makes it difficult for an automated system to detect.

I don't mind a 2 week ban, but so far this is going to be my 2nd year cancellation of ranked rewards. I have not been punished since the ban, and I have played over 200 games. I am certainly playing to win and I am check point 3/3 in honor level 0. I don't know how many more years it will take me to get to honor level 2. It does not seem likely due to the sheer volume of games I would have to theoretically play. This may have been possible if I was still in college but, with the rest of the early community, I am now out in the real world of employment etc. (to preface, I have been playing league since pre-season 1, I have the good ole bronzodia season 1 icon from my epic support Sona gameplay).

I feel that my account has essentially been invalidated from ranked permanently, and it would be faster for me to create a new level 30 account than to get honor level 2 on this one. I don't know why this relatively short time instance of frustration has invalidated 7~ years of good behavior.

At this point I am too old and jaded to be mad at players intentionally feeding my games, but it is saddening to see that players are still doing this and nothing is actually being done. It annoys me what is acceptable behavior and what is not.

my Jungler "demoting" (literally summoner named demoting) decided to play Teleport Cleanse Zilean and run it down in Diamond ranked (his match history is also scary) https://i.gyazo.com/380bc9e91a4e6fa628d46d596ffae2b3.png

I am frustrated that players like this are allowed ranked rewards, but I am not.

I was suggested a solution to transfer to Latin-America north so that I may be able to start clean as an honor level 2, but I would much prefer to play on a more competitive server. I may have old-man mechanics now, I still enjoy the nostalgia.

Can riot hit us with a happy 10 year anniversary honor refresh for people who have had penalties for over 1+ years ago but don't have the thousands of hours to grind honor to get rewards? I can make a new account and hit diamond+ faster than getting from honor level 0 to 2 and it is insanely discouraging. @riot pls send help

53 Comments

CrossbowRangerOct 16, 201912 votes

If Tyler deserves another chance to play the game you do too. Also not seeing the flame from Rogue.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20197 votes

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If Tyler deserves another chance to play the game you do too. Also not seeing the flame from Rogue.

I appreciate it, I just would like to play the game with the hopes of achieving high ranked rewards. Another quality gaming moment happened in soloqueue. Games like this are adding up and It is upsetting.

https://i.gyazo.com/12b09a7790641debb67dda7106caf000.mp4

BackdoorPrincessOct 16, 201910 votes

Even Nunu takes smite, seeing as how his consume still has an animation, no excuse for a jungler not to take it. The fact that that nid has a mejais and that many kills is a big indicator that he probably was running it down pretty hard, on top of the fact that not taking smite is a big enough throw indicator to begin with.

Ignore the person trying to call you out (you know the one), every thread they just spew garbage anyways. Riot 100% has a bias towards any type of retaliatory flaming over feeding, because it's easy to track on top of someone is just more likely to report that with easy proof, but also having inters in diamond and win trading=more accounts=more skin sales/player stats to show at meetings

preternaturalOct 16, 20199 votes

I don't understand how people are allowed to not take smite while jungling. I mean jungle items are locked behind taking smite, and jgl camp bonus xp is locked behind having a jungle item.

it's a blatant troll. why are there people saying otherwise?

hhaavviikkOct 16, 20191 votes

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I don't understand how people are allowed to not take smite while jungling. I mean jungle items are locked behind taking smite, and jgl camp bonus xp is locked behind having a jungle item.

it's a blatant troll. why are there people saying otherwise?

Because then riot would be enforcing a meta and that's no fun, what if I'm in a 5 premade and we want to play without a jungler? game says too bad you must take smite, what if pro players discover a tactic or strategy that doesn't involve a jungler with smite? too bad game says you must have one.

preternaturalOct 16, 20192 votes

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Because then riot would be enforcing a meta and that's no fun, what if I'm in a 5 premade and we want to play without a jungler? game says too bad you must take smite, what if pro players discover a tactic or strategy that doesn't involve a jungler with smite? too bad game says you must have one.

the meta was already enforced when your ranked team is top/mid/jgl/adc/supp

hhaavviikkOct 17, 20191 votes

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the meta was already enforced when your ranked team is top/mid/jgl/adc/supp

no it isn't, you can change out of smite, making it possible not to go jungle, ''adc'' also isn't enforced, as is evident by the fact we have games without adc's, all these names indicate is places on the map, not what champion or what class can be played there

Zed geniusOct 16, 20198 votes

The person who is hard defending the zilean in the comments, is probably a similar player to that zilean

ChickenWrapOct 16, 20196 votes

It's OK. I got punished like two months ago for repeating something someone said to me that the system thought I was saying about someone else and support didn't overturn it and so I'm going to lose rewards too.

This Renekton player was losing lane but I was paying attention elsewhere to the map, ganking and securing objectives, etc. He kept repeating the phrase "0 gank shaco fk ur mom" so after I went 15/5 and we won the game, I said "0 gank shaco fk ur mom" and got hit with a chat restriction for it since he was upset enough with me that he was going to report it anyway.

Very un-mod-like behaviour, I know, but it had to be done!

Anyway I know last season they gave a boost near the end to help players catch back up for rewards but I'm unsure if they plan to do the same this year.

TyRamosOct 16, 20192 votes

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It's OK. I got punished like two months ago for repeating something someone said to me that the system thought I was saying about someone else and support didn't overturn it and so I'm going to lose rewards too.

This Renekton player was losing lane but I was paying attention elsewhere to the map, ganking and securing objectives, etc. He kept repeating the phrase "0 gank shaco fk ur mom" so after I went 15/5 and we won the game, I said "0 gank shaco fk ur mom" and got hit with a chat restriction for it since he was upset enough with me that he was going to report it anyway.

Very un-mod-like behaviour, I know, but it had to be done!

Anyway I know last season they gave a boost near the end to help players catch back up for rewards but I'm unsure if they plan to do the same this year.

Lol. I think you're one of my favorite mods because you're typically eccentric.

ChickenWrapOct 16, 20192 votes

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Lol. I think you're one of my favorite mods because you're typically eccentric.

You should see me when I stream.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20194 votes

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It's OK. I got punished like two months ago for repeating something someone said to me that the system thought I was saying about someone else and support didn't overturn it and so I'm going to lose rewards too.

This Renekton player was losing lane but I was paying attention elsewhere to the map, ganking and securing objectives, etc. He kept repeating the phrase "0 gank shaco fk ur mom" so after I went 15/5 and we won the game, I said "0 gank shaco fk ur mom" and got hit with a chat restriction for it since he was upset enough with me that he was going to report it anyway.

Very un-mod-like behaviour, I know, but it had to be done!

Anyway I know last season they gave a boost near the end to help players catch back up for rewards but I'm unsure if they plan to do the same this year.

I feel like you gave us a perfect case of in-game provocation. They plan on doing anything to entrap and report you by spamming or griefing the entire game and the second you say something they got you. I hope they let us grind to lvl 2 honor in the pre-season but if I don't hear anything about it I'm just going to move to Latin America North and start back at lvl 2 honor there.

ChickenWrapOct 16, 20192 votes

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I feel like you gave us a perfect case of in-game provocation. They plan on doing anything to entrap and report you by spamming or griefing the entire game and the second you say something they got you. I hope they let us grind to lvl 2 honor in the pre-season but if I don't hear anything about it I'm just going to move to Latin America North and start back at lvl 2 honor there.

If memory serves correctly, you won't be able to do that there is a system in place and I honestly don't 100% remember how exactly it works but switching to a different server should reset your honour it's either that or it does reset it but when you go back to the original server that you were on your honour goes back to what it was. Personally, I wouldn't risk it. If you've been having problems being stuck at logo on it for an extended. Of time, the problem might be because you constantly getting reported more often so instead of your honour level going up the reports are keeping it down low if I were you, I would try my hardest to ignore your team and not respond back to anything they're doing intentionally or otherwise to cause you problems. That way, when you have a bad game they have no reason to report you for the most part and your honours will start to outweigh your reports. I'm using speech to text as I write this and quote so please forgive any typos or errors in grammar and so far it's been a long day and I'm just trying to get home.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20192 votes

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If memory serves correctly, you won't be able to do that there is a system in place and I honestly don't 100% remember how exactly it works but switching to a different server should reset your honour it's either that or it does reset it but when you go back to the original server that you were on your honour goes back to what it was. Personally, I wouldn't risk it. If you've been having problems being stuck at logo on it for an extended. Of time, the problem might be because you constantly getting reported more often so instead of your honour level going up the reports are keeping it down low if I were you, I would try my hardest to ignore your team and not respond back to anything they're doing intentionally or otherwise to cause you problems. That way, when you have a bad game they have no reason to report you for the most part and your honours will start to outweigh your reports. I'm using speech to text as I write this and quote so please forgive any typos or errors in grammar and so far it's been a long day and I'm just trying to get home.

I believe that honor is saved on a per-server basis, so if I were to go to LAN I would be honor 2 but essentially be exiled from NA. If I returned I would be back at 0 3/3. I don't believe that i am getting reported, most games I get at least 1 honor because I am literally asking people to honor me all the time. I think the amount of progress you can make is capped for time periods. Even if I played 1000 games in 1 month somehow I don't think it would let you progress in honor more than once or twice cuz of how the system is set up, which is wrong in my opinion. I played 200 games, no instances on my account. I personally think that is more than enough proof that I'm not going to go full VGDunkey on people when they int me. Its just annoying that it has been so long and I am still stuck out of rewards.

DOUBLE TAPPED EOct 16, 20192 votes

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It's OK. I got punished like two months ago for repeating something someone said to me that the system thought I was saying about someone else and support didn't overturn it and so I'm going to lose rewards too.

This Renekton player was losing lane but I was paying attention elsewhere to the map, ganking and securing objectives, etc. He kept repeating the phrase "0 gank shaco fk ur mom" so after I went 15/5 and we won the game, I said "0 gank shaco fk ur mom" and got hit with a chat restriction for it since he was upset enough with me that he was going to report it anyway.

Very un-mod-like behaviour, I know, but it had to be done!

Anyway I know last season they gave a boost near the end to help players catch back up for rewards but I'm unsure if they plan to do the same this year.

I got put on chat restriction for a game pre-Morde rework for saying "hurry up rammus kys!" while he was dueling his own ghost.

I mean he's killing himself right? Technically? Fighting a ghost of himself? No?

BlueAirplaneOct 16, 20194 votes

Honestly people treat it like we are super toxic to everyone (which there are few) but majority are nice people that just got frustrated at one game. I got suspended twice, One for afk (which I admit I shouldnt have kept playing when my internet was unstable), and one for being toxic to a player. And the truth is I'm probably more nicer than majority of the player base, I have if not hundreds of league friends that added me because I was a good player to play with and I have my own club with about 50ppl that I only added super nice people to play with.

The point is, it is way too harsh especially when you get suspended end of season, youre basically guaranteed you'll not get the reward you've spent hundreds of hours trying to rank up on because of one game.

TerrimOct 16, 20194 votes

I'm in the same boat, I got a chat restrict for telling a a Gragas jungle who bought a cull, only came to lanes to take minions, and took a 15 min break to "roll a blunt" to "burn in hell". I'm sure it wasn't the only time I was reported and have done my best to change my attitude towards the game since my chat restrict, but I don't think I should have lost my ranked rewards over that. I was in my S1->G4 promos while he did this, I could have said A LOT worse to him.

So I feel you, and from what I was told by support he may have been punished and I wasn't notified of it. I doubt it, didn't ease my grief at all, just suck it up and deal with the fact that riot hates bad words but not bad human beings.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20192 votes

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I'm in the same boat, I got a chat restrict for telling a a Gragas jungle who bought a cull, only came to lanes to take minions, and took a 15 min break to "roll a blunt" to "burn in hell". I'm sure it wasn't the only time I was reported and have done my best to change my attitude towards the game since my chat restrict, but I don't think I should have lost my ranked rewards over that. I was in my S1->G4 promos while he did this, I could have said A LOT worse to him.

So I feel you, and from what I was told by support he may have been punished and I wasn't notified of it. I doubt it, didn't ease my grief at all, just suck it up and deal with the fact that riot hates bad words but not bad human beings.

I don't think they get punished unless you are notified of their punishment via the pop-up in game. Im not sure tho.

TerrimOct 17, 20191 votes

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I don't think they get punished unless you are notified of their punishment via the pop-up in game. Im not sure tho.

from what I'm told by support they may have been punished and I wasn't notified, it's not 100% effective at notifying people. That's what the mod told me through a support ticket anyways.

rujitraOct 16, 20193 votes

Wow.

Honestly, just wow.

That's not "running it down" at ALL. YOU are the problem here - you flame people for literally any reason just to make your own ego feel better. Riot is not the problem, it's you.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 201916 votes

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Wow.

Honestly, just wow.

That's not "running it down" at ALL. YOU are the problem here - you flame people for literally any reason just to make your own ego feel better. Riot is not the problem, it's you.

My point was that this guy is picking Teleport Cleanse Zilean as a Jungler, intentionally feeding and STILL getting ranked rewards. I called someone a bad word for doing this and I was banned and I am not going to be rewarded now for multiple years.

rujitraOct 16, 20192 votes

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My point was that this guy is picking Teleport Cleanse Zilean as a Jungler, intentionally feeding and STILL getting ranked rewards. I called someone a bad word for doing this and I was banned and I am not going to be rewarded now for multiple years.

While it's recommended and encouraged to take smite as a jungler, there's actually no requirement to do so. You're trying to blame someone for your losses and lack of climbing, when the problem is likely 50% your skill and 50% your toxicity causing you to lose winnable games.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 201914 votes

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While it's recommended and encouraged to take smite as a jungler, there's actually no requirement to do so. You're trying to blame someone for your losses and lack of climbing, when the problem is likely 50% your skill and 50% your toxicity causing you to lose winnable games.

I am unsure if you read the post or not, I have not been punished in over a year. I am very nice to people. My point was that the punishment is too permanent and that people, like the "demoting" Zilean player, who troll and intentionally feed (if you want me to post clips from the replay, I will) in games should receive more attention from riot.

I feel that there is a common unsympathetic attitude that if you have any sort of honor related punishment you are the scum of the earth and there was no provocation that happened at all. not saying it is right but I keep seeing the "just don't" argument and my problem is the redemption phase of the reforming process takes inconceivably long.

rujitraOct 16, 20192 votes

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I am unsure if you read the post or not, I have not been punished in over a year. I am very nice to people. My point was that the punishment is too permanent and that people, like the "demoting" Zilean player, who troll and intentionally feed (if you want me to post clips from the replay, I will) in games should receive more attention from riot.

I feel that there is a common unsympathetic attitude that if you have any sort of honor related punishment you are the scum of the earth and there was no provocation that happened at all. not saying it is right but I keep seeing the "just don't" argument and my problem is the redemption phase of the reforming process takes inconceivably long.

You can claim you're "very nice" to people, but you don't get to decide that. Given your attitude in this thread, where you are still attempting to flame/blame others, I'm virtually certain you still act this way in game.

If you improve your behavior, reform takes a matter of a month or two of moderately active play (a couple games per day on average). If you don't improve your behavior, then it takes an indefinite amount of time.

ancient evilOct 16, 20195 votes

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I am unsure if you read the post or not, I have not been punished in over a year. I am very nice to people. My point was that the punishment is too permanent and that people, like the "demoting" Zilean player, who troll and intentionally feed (if you want me to post clips from the replay, I will) in games should receive more attention from riot.

I feel that there is a common unsympathetic attitude that if you have any sort of honor related punishment you are the scum of the earth and there was no provocation that happened at all. not saying it is right but I keep seeing the "just don't" argument and my problem is the redemption phase of the reforming process takes inconceivably long.

Honestly just ignore Rujitara he literally is riots "White knight" doubt he actually plays the game tbh. Cause I know for a fact anyone who had a tp/cleanse jg would be super pissed off that the troll isn't getting banned.

VentingPaladinOct 16, 201917 votes

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While it's recommended and encouraged to take smite as a jungler, there's actually no requirement to do so. You're trying to blame someone for your losses and lack of climbing, when the problem is likely 50% your skill and 50% your toxicity causing you to lose winnable games.

So when games lower exp gain from jg kills unless you have a jg item (which is locked unless you have the smite summoner ability), you not getting smite isn't trolling? When RANKED explicitly replaces one of your summoner spells with smite when you jg and you conciously choose tp and cleanse as a jungler, THAT isn't trolling?!

You claim you play the game when people call out this kinda bs you're spouting (saying that your boards account ain't your main account), yet what you say makes everyone believe other wise.

You're supposed to be the "Player Behaviour Specialist", stay in that section of the boards, and quit putting your 2 cents into things you clearly don't know about.

This may be a free to play game, but when you play jg, you are expected to take smite. Especially when if you don't, you are at a major disadvantage to other laners, much less the enemy jg who actually knows how to play ranked and took smite.

I may not play ranked, but I've played League long enough to actually know what I'm talking about.

Mind you, I ain't defending whatever flaming that took place, it is generally considered trolling when you choose not to take smite, much less a jg champ, when you call jg in ranked.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20199 votes

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So when games lower exp gain from jg kills unless you have a jg item (which is locked unless you have the smite summoner ability), you not getting smite isn't trolling? When RANKED explicitly replaces one of your summoner spells with smite when you jg and you conciously choose tp and cleanse as a jungler, THAT isn't trolling?!

You claim you play the game when people call out this kinda bs you're spouting (saying that your boards account ain't your main account), yet what you say makes everyone believe other wise.

You're supposed to be the "Player Behaviour Specialist", stay in that section of the boards, and quit putting your 2 cents into things you clearly don't know about.

This may be a free to play game, but when you play jg, you are expected to take smite. Especially when if you don't, you are at a major disadvantage to other laners, much less the enemy jg who actually knows how to play ranked and took smite.

I may not play ranked, but I've played League long enough to actually know what I'm talking about.

I wouldn't really know what to do on a smiteless team for how the meta has evolved so far. We would just be out all objectives and down so much global gold and experience.

BackdoorPrincessOct 16, 201910 votes

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While it's recommended and encouraged to take smite as a jungler, there's actually no requirement to do so. You're trying to blame someone for your losses and lack of climbing, when the problem is likely 50% your skill and 50% your toxicity causing you to lose winnable games.

Player is D4 with 200 games, you are an unranked unplayed account who's only trackable games put them barely in silver 2 seasons ago and is more than likely a shell account for someone who cant have presence on boards in this capacity or risk termination. I can't really recall a single thread I've seen you comment on that what you have said is helpful, constructive, nor even correct.

Let's break this down:

A) not taking smite means no jungle item, no jungle item means less xp and gold from jungle camps, as well as less sustain in said jungle. Jungle is a role you have to queue for (or get autofilled into), meaning that saying you are gonna dual top is a nono since it is in fact an enforced role (see marksman being replaced with "bottom"). Not taking smite would have been semi--arguable, however the changes to the jungle to prevent sion's et. al's from taking camps level 1 to get a lead, and to try and contain laners to lanes and junglers to jungles (with reduced minion gold with item).

B) Teleport and cleanse being the new revive/smite combo to take when trolling. This is not flash/ignite nor exhaust/ignite nor flash/ghost, these are not one, but two highly situational spells, which, when combined with fleet on zilean is some pretty clear trolling. Almost like a few games prior (also when jungling) when he took predator teleport/cleanse ekko (with 0 KP and 5 deaths).

C) This is ranked. This is not draft/blind where you try new strategies to test viability, and as far as his history shows he hasn't been practicing this (which both were immediately after losses, can't see champs banned but willing to bet that has something to do with it also).

There's also the fact that this is a free game, and only a handful of people I've seen have been permabanned on all smurfs as well, and he's right, the fact that he could just make a smurf to get the rewards that he is missing out on because of last year is ridiculous. Take rewards away for certain bans maybe (like idk, elo-boosting and win-trading), but taking those rewards away for flaming for multiple years just breeds more toxicity, and introduces more smurfing in a game that's already pretty bad about it

Captaìn MeliodasNov 8, 20191 votes

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While it's recommended and encouraged to take smite as a jungler, there's actually no requirement to do so. You're trying to blame someone for your losses and lack of climbing, when the problem is likely 50% your skill and 50% your toxicity causing you to lose winnable games.

I don't agree with ur opinion,i was trying eune region and what u are saying don't make sense,Adc is the most important role in the game and when ur adc lose the lane 2v2 and then blame jng while her score is 0 9 as adc,am i supposed to say gj for losing my game?

Blue ShiftOct 17, 20192 votes

It's sad that you can't call someone out on being a %%%% in-game, or even just simple trash talking like calling someone bad without someone telling riot they are going to kill themselves over it, and riot isn't smart enough to know these are just trolls or people being overly dramatic to insight punishments. If someone in real life was told they were bad at drawing, said person would definitely be a bit of a dick, but that is nowhere near enough to be put in jail or penalized at all, let alone for that person to kill themselves over it. Calling someone the n-word or f-word, I can undestand being bannable, but not calling someone bad at a video game.

dont botherOct 16, 20197 votes

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Wow.

Honestly, just wow.

That's not "running it down" at ALL. YOU are the problem here - you flame people for literally any reason just to make your own ego feel better. Riot is not the problem, it's you.

mhm yes, players ruining competitive ranked games should not be punished1!!!!1 hnngghhhh !!!!!

PhantomPranksterOct 16, 20193 votes

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Wow.

Honestly, just wow.

That's not "running it down" at ALL. YOU are the problem here - you flame people for literally any reason just to make your own ego feel better. Riot is not the problem, it's you.

quoting just to remind you of the shit you posted in this thread

DOUBLE TAPPED EOct 16, 20193 votes

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Wow.

Honestly, just wow.

That's not "running it down" at ALL. YOU are the problem here - you flame people for literally any reason just to make your own ego feel better. Riot is not the problem, it's you.

Boy I've been interacting with you on these boards for some time now and I can safely say: You are just the worst. Like, you are a truly terrible person who I hope very few people are cursed to interact with in real life.

General Esdeath Oct 17, 20193 votes

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Wow.

Honestly, just wow.

That's not "running it down" at ALL. YOU are the problem here - you flame people for literally any reason just to make your own ego feel better. Riot is not the problem, it's you.

When was the last time you played League again?

Chromatic ClownOct 16, 20193 votes

Gotta silence you for the PR but don't care about the quality of the actual games.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20193 votes

I would love a type of acknowledgement or explanation from riot about this if possible.

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20193 votes

Another quality game of soloQ, my team mate literally was just like "eh, Gonna leave now" at lvl 5. We won but it was still a horrible quality game.

https://i.gyazo.com/b1f6d8b8b4c89a0319525356330700bc.png

General Esdeath Oct 17, 20193 votes

This isn't inting uwu he's just trying a new meta uwu your Ryze has 5 deaths is he inting too? uwu game is fine uwu buy more skins uwu don't flame or you're literally satan uwu

Jungle DemonOct 16, 20192 votes

Its okay man, maybe if you keep it up you can compete in the League 25th anniversary. LOL

Bot ZileanOct 16, 20192 votes

I feel for you OP, I've had many of those games and really all I can do is just mute them because so help me God I would be banned if let one rip on the keyboard.

Eventually and overtime, these players do get what's coming to them. It looks like nothing is happening because there is just so many toxic players, but rest assure, overtime, these players are removed from the game.

Also, anytime you see someone pick cleanse & teleport in champ select, it's usually them trying to troll or force someone to dodge. You're really better off just dodging the game at the very last second if no one else does. I've learned this the hard way...

Source: Master player - it's rampant even at my rank how many players try to coerce others to dodge in champ select. item 3070

Rebel 986Oct 16, 20191 votes

Took me six months from 0 to lvl 2. Now I have auto mute all on and last check point for honor 5

3TWarriorOct 16, 20191 votes

We'll have to see replay footage. From the stats of the player and yourself, they always play unorthodox, their gold income actually EXCEEDED YOURS and matched the team's average

From the looks of it, there was not enough vision on the map and you assumed the Zilean getting counter-jungled by Nidalee, one of the strongest early game duelists in the jungle, was intentional feeding and simply stopped playing

If I had to guess, you probably argued from champ select, played a brief moment and gave up, given that your CS count is only 18

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20194 votes

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We'll have to see replay footage. From the stats of the player and yourself, they always play unorthodox, their gold income actually EXCEEDED YOURS and matched the team's average

From the looks of it, there was not enough vision on the map and you assumed the Zilean getting counter-jungled by Nidalee, one of the strongest early game duelists in the jungle, was intentional feeding and simply stopped playing

If I had to guess, you probably argued from champ select, played a brief moment and gave up, given that your CS count is only 18

My cs was 18 because I was playing support, I thought that was apparent from the support item in my inventory. The zilean never attempted to jungle. He just went into our lane and suicided.

3TWarriorOct 16, 20191 votes

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My cs was 18 because I was playing support, I thought that was apparent from the support item in my inventory. The zilean never attempted to jungle. He just went into our lane and suicided.

I honestly can't tell what's happening. Please provide the replay. The most suspicious part that might have been the attempt to troll was that he originally bought a item 1043 , but later he sold it. I'll quote my original response to this message since I deleted it to triple check the match

considering you were first blood and there's no death by Zilean in your lane...Maybe you're thinking of a different match? Add to that that the deaths to Nidalee were ALL in the jungle on your side of the map...

THERE IS ONE DEATH that might be considered feeding, and that's after 10 minutes when both of your towers were down and the opposing team was ahead by over 10,000 gold...

please provide the video. Stats can lie

what likely happened is nid decided to take advantage of zilean having poor dueling abilities, counterjungled him repeatedly and just snowballed by killing Ryze and zilean

#BTW, you never stood a chance. Nidalee is a smurf with 82% win rate and even on the smurf is in the TOP 500 RENGAR PLAYERS IN THE WORLD AND TOp 60 RENGAR PLAYERS IN NORTH AMERICA

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/champions/rengar/na/Finn+McMissile/all

There are more factors at work as well, such as you having less than half of the damage the zilean managed to cause to the opponents

ScrubRogueOct 16, 20193 votes

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I honestly can't tell what's happening. Please provide the replay. The most suspicious part that might have been the attempt to troll was that he originally bought a , but later he sold it. I'll quote my original response to this message since I deleted it to triple check the match

what likely happened is nid decided to take advantage of zilean having poor dueling abilities, counterjungled him repeatedly and just snowballed by killing Ryze and zilean

#BTW, you never stood a chance. is a smurf with 82% win rate and even on the smurf is in the TOP 500 RENGAR PLAYERS IN THE WORLD AND TOp 60 RENGAR PLAYERS IN NORTH AMERICA

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/champions/rengar/na/Finn+McMissile/all

There are more factors at work as well, such as you having less than half of the damage the zilean managed to cause to the opponents

I think a bronze player could have beat a cleanse TP jungler. Without smite he is locked out of the XP and JG item and has no way to secure his camps.

ZaFishboneOct 17, 20191 votes

Waah

zlajoOct 17, 20191 votes

This happened to me last season. 2 games, 2 players inted the game terribly. Both flamed me after i asked them to stop feed. I told them i wont argue with noobs and muted them without further comments. One was reported by all 4 of us, the other by all 9.

Both games i got quick message about penalty being issued. But i got one aswell, 2 weeks before end of season. I didnt manage to restore honor on time. Support didnt overturn the sentence, even if they expressed understanding for the situation.

Epilogue. I disagree with riot's system of punishment. Someone punished twice early in season can achieve honor lvl 2 and get rewards. Someone punished at end of seasone once cant fix honor and gets no rewards. For that i stopped investing money in this game and to riot. When they fix the system i will give them money again. Put your money where your mouth is.

Second thing is that trolls are not worth any comments. They will lose your game, and otherones after. Dont get baited and punished. They will continue to fall while you rise, and you will not meet them anymore. And dont forget, solo duo ranked is just a gimmick, dont tilt there. Full 5 premade is the only way to trully play this game without any random team mate factors. Everything else is just a joke. Knowing this helps me keep calm. GL

Doc StrangeOct 17, 20191 votes

The amount of people who think not taking smite as a jungler is okay is impressive to me, this is why they won't climb*[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]*

RulohNov 18, 20191 votes

I sympathize with the OP heavily in this case. I've played the game since 2013, and this is my first season getting into gold. NEVER in my 7~ year time of playing this game have I ever suffered a punishment until about a few months back. It was a 14 day suspension simply because I retaliated to a premade group of 3 where 1 player was the provoker and was constantly saying rude things about me and my random partner in bot lane. For whatever reason, the first insult that came to mind after suffering what felt like forever with this player was the derogatory F word when they insulted me. Please bear in mind, I honestly never use that word in or out of game anymore and it's been a long time since I have, it was simply the first insult that popped into my head at the time.

Despite recognizing that I screwed up immediately more for my choice of insult rather than my overall behavior or responding to the player, and choosing to ignore the guy, the instigator and his premade teammates convince the enemy team during and post game that I was toxic the whole match. And if a moderator or admin had actually bothered to look into the chat log for that game, or even into my past games, they'd discover that I've never once used derogatory slander until that moment because it fell under hate speech. =_= Which again, it was said with the mindset of "pick an insult, any insult will do" rather than actual hate speech.

It's incredibly frustrating knowing that the "redemption" time just to get back to ranked rewards honor status basically takes months of constant gaming that adults don't have the time for, and that had I decided to call that flamer literally ANYTHING else for an insult barring the N word, nothing would've happened to me. And it's stupid. It's so, so, incredibly stupid. And I wholeheartedly agree that it's ridiculous to know that it would be faster to make a new account with barely any champs to get ranked rewards honor status rather than my 7~ year invested account. The honor system NEEDS reevaluation time because I actually miss the fact that I can't honor my enemies anymore, too.