by nerfing a tank's cc makes the tank useless

T R E L L D O M·9/16/2018, 7:27:26 AM·4 votes·3,405 views

Why do people pick tanks like Gragas Ornn Sejuani Zac ? To start strong engages with their huge AOE crow controls.

Vanguards like Ornn and Sejuani are not meatshields for their team (well at least the latter one was more than that).

Vanguards unlike wardens ( Alistar Nunu ) need to have some form of dmg in their kit because they are not supportive tanks.

As of patch 8.18 sejuanis ult doesnt have enough slow aoe anymore, now the aoe slow lasts 1s whether or not you miss your ult on a target, even if she starts an engage and throws her combo after 1 second everyone on the enemy team will be k. What can your team offer in that 1 second ? Nothing

I also saw meddler responding to someone who asked about ornns state in soloq and he said they will look to reduce his ult range and give him power somewhere else. Again thats not the way to treat a vanguard.

15 Comments

ZerglingOne9/16/2018, 7:29:40 AM5 votes

Right, so nerf the damage, not the CC. Because the damage is the problem.

Colton1479/16/2018, 7:31:58 AM1 votes

Leona item 3070

Salron9/16/2018, 9:16:40 AM1 votes

So how do you want them to fix Ornn's current state? Because atm too much power is in his ult and the rest of his kit suffers for it

Pulling power out of his ult is the only way to allow buffs to other abilities

rtbf2216514129/16/2018, 2:27:46 PM1 votes

They don't consider Sejuani a tank anymore. They called her a bruiser or something the patch before.