Perma-Ban for Chat restrictions Unfair

iVersatile xx·Sep 12, 2019·2 votes·1,144 views

So recently I was Permabanned on my main account which was created all they way back in season 2, and the reason was for chat toxicity. Ive spoken to several Riot members about this ban and Skeletor advised that I came to the discussion board and ask the community as well as hope other riot employees that are part of the development team notice this post. My account, with thousands of hours and hundreds of dollars sunk in, was permabanned for it's "final strike." The unnerving part of this is that none of these bans were due to chating, inting, hate speech, or anything. All banter. All "trash talk." The issues that I brought up with the Riot employees involved their statute of limitations, and that is, what is it? My account recieved a total of 5 chat restrictions before being executed in an untimely manner. That is on average a chat restriction once every 2 YEARS. So essentially, every 2 years, I could have a bad game and lash out at the opponent, but speak nothing about them on a personal level and keep it strictly gameplay related, and end up losing the account. So my question to all of you, do you think this is fair? Shouldn't there be more information given about this, rather than some blitzcrank bot saying you hurt their feelings so you can't talk for 10 games. A simple bar showing if you're in the red zone could even help deter this manner of speaking, but none of this exists. I simply hit my "final strike" after 10 years and received a permaban because there is no sliding scale of ban level to show how close you are to that "final strike." You can go 2 years straight of nothing, talk in all chat 1 time, and get permabanned. I believe a change needs to be made.

4 Comments

rujitraSep 12, 20192 votes

You don't get a final strike if you have a chat restriction every couple years unless you simply aren't playing.

Your account does get back into good standing after some time. You had to go through multiple chat restrictions AND a 14 day ban that made very clear that more misbehavior would be a permanent ban.

SimpIe NickSep 15, 2019

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You don't get a final strike if you have a chat restriction every couple years unless you simply aren't playing.

Your account does get back into good standing after some time. You had to go through multiple chat restrictions AND a 14 day ban that made very clear that more misbehavior would be a permanent ban.

contrary to popular belief, it actually isn't "very clear," it's just a log of your chat and says stop lol

YinYangXSep 15, 20191 votes

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You don't get a final strike if you have a chat restriction every couple years unless you simply aren't playing.

Your account does get back into good standing after some time. You had to go through multiple chat restrictions AND a 14 day ban that made very clear that more misbehavior would be a permanent ban.

Well the key thing here is (unless the op accidentally/purposely left out) that there was no "14 day ban" warning. So maybe that's what the op is asking the community's response about?

Like one of the few situations where I could think where you'd go straight from cr to a perm ban would be like death threats or some toxic thing that's like extremely f***ed up.

On a personal note, I honestly really don't like the chat restriction/toxicity check system LoL has. From my (limited experience), the people who are the most toxic are the one who are really bad at the game (not saying good players aren't toxic, but imo just not as intense/often). And these are the people who don't care about their accounts so they freely flame and then just make a new account after getting cr/temp-banned/etc. Some trolls even make throw away accounts just to troll flame other players into getting cr. But people who are invested into their accounts (whether financially or time wise) can't lash out back cause they have way more to lose, which I think is really unfair since then said invested players end up having all their salt build up until it explodes, and then they still end up with the short end of the stick. I get this is a very selfish, self-centered view point, but it's really frustrating when you go from lvl 4 or 5 honor straight down to 0 because you blow up at some trolls.

SimpIe NickSep 18, 20191 votes

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Well the key thing here is (unless the op accidentally/purposely left out) that there was no "14 day ban" warning. So maybe that's what the op is asking the community's response about?

Like one of the few situations where I could think where you'd go straight from cr to a perm ban would be like death threats or some toxic thing that's like extremely f***ed up.

On a personal note, I honestly really don't like the chat restriction/toxicity check system LoL has. From my (limited experience), the people who are the most toxic are the one who are really bad at the game (not saying good players aren't toxic, but imo just not as intense/often). And these are the people who don't care about their accounts so they freely flame and then just make a new account after getting cr/temp-banned/etc. Some trolls even make throw away accounts just to troll flame other players into getting cr. But people who are invested into their accounts (whether financially or time wise) can't lash out back cause they have way more to lose, which I think is really unfair since then said invested players end up having all their salt build up until it explodes, and then they still end up with the short end of the stick. I get this is a very selfish, self-centered view point, but it's really frustrating when you go from lvl 4 or 5 honor straight down to 0 because you blow up at some trolls.

yeah i know plat players who intentionally int their alt's placements to get iron placed just to pupstomp and shit talk, it's a broken system