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Syndra doesnt need a nerf man

Elena Siegman·12/18/2014, 2:14:39 AM·5 votes·2,660 views

The syndra early game q nerf just hit the pbe and not too surprised but upset at how this could potentially go live. Syndra is immobile in all stages of the game and has 1 cc move that is strong but can be easily dodged and expected and when on cd she is extremely vulnerable. Syndra has very clear counterplay and falls off hard into the late game and also cant instakill the whole enemy team unlike someone else ( cough kat ) and I really hope that this doesnt go through because there IS CLEAR COUNTERPLAY. She has her good early and mid game and decent early late game and becomes weak in the late game. She currently has a 50.1 % win percentage which is smack dab in the middle indicating a sign that she is actually balanced. Mobile mids are her weakness and she is very prone to picks such as talon, zed, fizz, kassadin, and such. If they want to balance the game, dont touch things that are already balanced.

29 Comments

Epilogue of Life12/18/2014, 2:48:05 AM4 votes

Lol what can a Talon do against you without his silence, don't even mention him, hurts just to see his name. Cutting your throat to slow you, seems legit.

Akumu12/18/2014, 2:44:52 AM2 votes

Syndra is my most played champion in s4.

This nerf is pretty much a slap on the wrist and you should be happy. They literally only nerfed her early game and past rank 3(level 5)the nerf is pretty trivial. At level 7 its only 5 damage difference.

She is supposed to be a late game champion anyway. Be glad they didnt apply any significant nerfs.

Lusth12/18/2014, 2:46:47 AM2 votes

"her stun is easy to dodge" "she falls off" "shes balanced" http://i61.tinypic.com/33act4g.jpg[/IMG]

wyndra is broken. #gut the freelo sovereign

Abyssphere12/18/2014, 2:54:56 AM1 votes

I don't mind the nerf. I don't think she really needed it but lots of people would disagree, so I'm just glad it's not a bigger nerf. Plus I didn't really want her to go ignored by the balance team anyway; I'd hate if the playerbase got sick of her being top tier and she became the Lee Sin of mid lane.

OneSlickPhony12/18/2014, 2:57:10 AM1 votes

has 1 cc move that is strong but can be easily dodged

The hitbox is as stupid as Morgana's Q while having much faster travel speed, so no it actually can't.

Syndra has very clear counterplay

5v1ing and AFKing aren't counterplay.

there IS CLEAR COUNTERPLAY

Be a dear and tell us what counterplay Syndra supposedly has.

**50.1 % win percentage which is smack dab in the middle indicating a sign that she is actually balanced

Because winrates completely and 100% indicate balance, right? ...Right?

Kuroi8612/18/2014, 3:01:00 AM1 votes

A. It's a minor damage nerf to her early game, she'll survive.

B. Trying to point out a champ you dislike and act like they are op just to whine over your own champ, not getting you any support.

OverpoweredSoap12/18/2014, 3:04:46 AM1 votes

If they really think Syndra is a problem or too safe, why not just revert the E buff they gave her?

Nausicäa 12/18/2014, 5:24:13 AM1 votes

They added a second nerf, a reduction in the hit box of her stun. This could seriously break her if they make it too hard to land her stun as its basically the crux of her kit

A minor reduction would be fine as long as they dont make it such that you can no longer reliably land it.

Quepha12/18/2014, 5:58:16 AM1 votes

miss q miss w miss q miss e miss q dfg r you have slain an enemy balanced

MÆGÉ ÇRŃT12/23/2014, 9:28:55 AM1 votes

Well I'm reading all these comments and all i can think is she doesn't need a nerf. In fact ithink she needs small buffs and tweaks. Syndra my first ap carry and also my most avid ap carry. I understand her mechanics and the diffrent ways to play her. The fact that she is completely immobile is a big deal already. Ive made a build that sacrafices some damage but gets her in and out of bad spots and i can carry with it. If they gave her some more movement speed it would be pretty grand for actually capturing the true nature of syndra that could stop a whole legion. She couldnt do that standing still right??????? She needs a bit more mobility to make her more realistic i couldn't imagine the slow syndra now taking out a whole legion yet a whole team of 5 without a whole lot of luck and mistakes on the opposing teams behalf. Even her solo potential is slim to none without her ult and if they dodge and even if they are able to aa you to death because you so god dang slow. (god forbid ww or vayne really wants some of that sweet booty and have flash ghost heal or even yummas ghost blade) Right now syndras only balacned if someone like my self is playing their hardest to stay relevant on the filed. Other wise her skill cap is way to high for most to comprehend. Let some one get fed with her and yhea she might rekt everyone but even then she goes to aggressive she is shut down easy. watch someone struggle playing a game where they are not fed or if they are playing defensive. I love that shes balanced right now but i think small buffs will really make he rlive up to her lore. He rpassive is good but i feel liuke a very small add on maybe that movement speed bonus Ive been rambling about might make the syndra fantasy come alive. When i read he rlore i get images of her flying around casting simultaneously creating that more battle ready, duel ready carrie that if played right can duel anyone potentially. Riot is thinking of a nerf but really i think there's a small tweak and adjustment that will take her from small complaints about q damage (which when using q in lane usually leads you to get closer than you want to) to more like something like i cant just run up to her and dodge/ item thorught her cc and kill her. I can play a match and build 1200 ap working my ass off for stacks on mejas and carry but it takes all game and you have to cover your but and then guess what once you die your back at nothing. Syndras immense power is on par damage wise but her ability to use it hasn't been adjusted enough in my sincere opinion. Im not osmeone who looks at win rates and stuff... im someone who feels. Syndra is truly my fav. character in leauge hands down so i dont say this in fun. When i sacrafice an ap item and soucrers shoes for boots of swiftness with the cooldowns on summoner spells flash and ghost and also for rightous glory even tho i lack the extra damage early i feel it in my play style that the syndra riot gave lore of come alive. One moment my lanes shoved top lane i odont hav ethat much damage they think im down. But then i go for it i use my spells and my items to dart in and out fo bushes to get in and out of range to move out loing enough for a cool down to bait a death in to a flash. AND AT THAT MOMENT MY LACK OF DAMAGE AT 4 AP .... 4 AP WITH BOOTS AND RIGHTOUSE GLORY, MY DAMAGE COMES ALIVE THORUGH OUT PLAY THORUGH MOBILITY THROUGH COOLDOWNS. My targets falls and i cant help but to share with them that i only have 4 ap and none of my first two core items are recommended. Some may say this proves she op being about level 7 or 8 with 4 ap bEign able to kill a top lane fighter like panth or olaf. BUT LET ME SEE YOU TRY IT ITS NOT EASY IT TAKES PRACTICE AND KNOWING THE CHAMP. So my message to riot is no nerfs plz. How about a small creative tweak to her in her favor, make that unstoppable character that you told stories about come true. Why is her lore so amazing but shes over shadowed by so many champs? Its incredibly hard to 1v1 any target thats got higher consistent damage and escapes and if they have an item to get past your cc gg for you. ( vayne lee sin rengar zed any adc late game that has escapes and dodges) Syndra istn jsut supposed to b know for her stun right or her early q damage. if that's all people have to say about her ( little things that can be annoying if not dodged) Then she obviously isn't finished being tweaked right? I dont hear anything like omg this syndra even the whole team cant stop her. Im not saying buff her to that point ahaha but at least bring her close to her lore. (shes just not there yet) To rally be a good syndra it takes so much patience belive me i know i can do it and sometimes i still fail ( thats how hard she is) ive gone 25 plus kill with only 6 and below deaths and a ton of assist) but it definitely wasnt a consistent happening it happens on occasion that oyu can stay alive and stack that mejas other wise she gets around 15 to to 21 kills maybe on a very very good game average build. I know i will get criticism on this probably all negative.. thats how our community is but i hope this reaches some syndra players and hopefully riots ears no matter how many typos i have in this monolog aha! I dont see why a champ with such rich lore can be overshadowed by so many others lee sin akali rengar yi ( riot plz fi yi jeez why ignore him?) Im not a trying to be like most of yall asking for giant buffs on their champs... im simply saying syndra needs somethig really small added to make her live up to her lore. I feel like im not the only player that has really puting the effort to really be great with her even with all her set backs. I feel like the players that are like me are all thinking the same thing syndra thinks " they say we lack balance" "but we can (and should be) so much more" and a small buff i think it has something to do with a little extra movement and something with her passive added on that will make the character that she should be. Nerf her q to make everyone feel better if you want but its uneccessary i happen to feel like it dosnt do enough already (early game wise) and its good only if you can keep up with your targets without dying ( late game wise) but then again i stopped buidling early damage and i go for all utility so i can get even a little closer to the syndra in the lore. Bring on your criticism guys if there's positive hopefully more of you agree with what im saying maybe it will help riot focus on making syndra more what she really is rather than listening to complaints that are really more players being annoyed because they lack the timing to dodge a q. btw guys syndra needs that stun so she an hopefully get in and press r without getting stunned and killed. as well ahs when being chased since she is stupidly slow that range def matters if the ww or vayne dosnt have and item already to get around the cc. Buff not nerf nut only a slight buff to her utility more than her damage. I said this at the beginning adding the mobility and utility allowed me to use her mechanics a lot better at the cost of early game damage. Lets make her mechanics more definied riot. i want to be able to juke naturally with more movement speed rather than always rely on ghost and righteous glory to make those crazy 4 ap plays which still require her to stay in combat and press more than one set of spells. ill stop blabering you get the point. This is coming form one of the many syndra players that really feel this high skill cap champ and belive that she can be so much more than what people are currently talking about when she reached the pbe. i imagen syndra would say something like this - level 1 q damage, a long range stun and a high damage ult if prepared correctly is all they notice about me....maybe im not close enough yet.. i can still be so much more. ( she would leave the rift and go back and train at he strong hold rather than be ridiculed on the rift, then com back after and destroy everyone who dared oopen there mouths) :) but i never log into to post but i was playing a match and someone that said i was really good even tho they fed and we werere fightting a fed team told me too bad and then relayed these rummours of nerfs to me and i decided i for one had enough already. Syndras precense on the rift needs to be completed if that's all that people mention about her. AND JEEZ A NEW SKIN PLZ OH LAWD HOW LIONG BEFORE ANOTHER SKING JEEZ AHA (TYPICAL COMPLAINT)

pleep12/18/2014, 2:17:06 AM1 votes

"syndra is vulnerable to talon" rofl.

If u cant win lane in the first 5 mins vs talon u should kys

Miyu771/23/2015, 6:13:16 AM1 votes

I actually got upset when they nerfed syndra. Removing her good early game really strikes me out. I main syndra and her early game is one of the reasons why I keep zed, akali, kat, fizz( I can actually play decent against a fizz without dying) , and talon from getting fed. Truthfully speaking I don't mind it, but as what the topic said, she is one of the balanced champions and nerfing her is really a bad decision. The thing that makes her balanced is that her casting range is pretty decent unlike xerath. Second is her passive only applies when her skills are maxed. She is also not that mobile and is pretty vulnerable in ganks when she extends. Her E which is one of her play makers got nerfed and it is her best asset when it comes to team fights. Overall I just wished they did not touch her.

forist12/18/2014, 2:39:38 AM1 votes

Probably to reduce her bullying potential. Of all the mid-laners she bullies the hardest while staying the safest. Plus her q is an instant cast skill, so there is no way to tell when she's gonna use it, and dodge appropriately. A move that can't be telegraphed should not have that high damage early in the game.

Ch0c0lateJesus12/18/2014, 2:49:19 AM1 votes

Honestly I just hate the point and click low cooldown nuke that is her ult.