Don't usually post other people's content, but I think it's worth spreading this around since it nicely summarizes the problem with non-solo-que in ranked this season. If you have too much ADHD for the video, the tldr is that DQ trades 'the ability to share the exciting intensity of ranked with your friends' for 'actual competitive integrity,' which has taken the value away from being in high-elo... ie the purpose of ranked.
The additional problem is that, as ranked loses its competitive integrity, players will start treating it less and less seriously. So, while DQ is currently sacrificing competitive integrity to offer premades the chance to play in a serious game mode, even that will be lost soon enough.
DQ's not even bad yet, just wait until it's been around a year.
The problems of competitive integrity aren't just the very top of the ladder.
When Dynamic Queue was launched I was in Gold 4/5. The highest I got this season so far, was Plat 4, playing with Plats 2 on average.
I'll be honest here. I've been camped by 2, 3 people in nearly every game for the past 4 or so months. Surprisingly most of the time they also had matching club names, or if I checked their match history, more than 2 games with each other.
There is no competitive experience, if you get repeatedly gangbanged by the same 2 or 3 people from the same club for 20 minutes straight.
I've been facing this problem in Gold 4 and Plat 4 alike.
And by all means Plat 4 isn't really that high of an ELO.
No special reward skin for people who used groups via dynamic queue. Problem solved, let the down-votes of the kids who got boosted start.
Can't agree with him. Shitty matchmaking is my problem with DQ. Though it will be nice if SQ returns.
Unless you're in Diamond DQ really doesn't disadvantage anyone lol... Just a bunch of players who seek excuses. My favourite one is people who cry about being Gold 1 and fighting Diamonds. Same amount of players at Diamond 5 0lp (1.5% ranked population) and same amount at D4 0lp (.5% or top 9000 players). Nothing has changed. The integrity remains (except for Diamond 1+). Everyone crying about situation x "omg people paying boosters to DQ with them. Guess what. It's entirely possible but it means nothing. If someone got a boost to Diamond via Dynamic Queue they still have to play to maintain that rank, so are they going to be for a yearlong boost just to maintain D5? Do you realize how skilled the booster has to be, and how much he would charge to help someone maintain diamond all year? Or will a player forgo ranked all year long then pay for a boost in the last few days of ranked to get the Diamond border? Either way it wouldn't affect 99% of the player base as that is not a common occurrence.
INB4 N3AC3Y comments. He's just trying to prove the point a boost is possible through Dynamic Queue but watch for a few things that occur. How long it takes him to boost that "reality denial" kid. What does this kid do once he gets diamond but has months remaining before season ends and he needs to maintain the rank? Does he call on N3AC3Y to help him? So boosters become like what? Client relationship people? Seems like a lot of work to allow one bad player the opportunity to hold a diamond account. Seems like a waste of money for someone to brag about getting a diamond border. Seems like a load of bullshit that doesn't hold weight.
Keep crying, Or head over to op.gg/champion.gg/probuild.net and learn to play the game properly. ~Utility Backline Snitches and crybabies all one point five milly of you.
I kind of agree with him. For me, playing casually with friends should be something more for normals or aram. Ranked is supposed to be about your personal skill level. Ranked is also a lot worse when you are facing a team with a premade or you are on a team with a premade and you feel like you aren't really a part of the team. Or the duo/trio starts blaming you (particularly when you are support or jungler) and you feel like you are going to get reported just because you weren't in the premade.
Recently I've begun to feel the pain of DQ, and though I see both sides of it, I also now see what middle ground can maybe work. DQ should ONLY be for non-ranked games. Bring back SQ/Duo Q and 5v5 for ranked only. This then gives ranked games the credibility back, and will accurately determine a player's proper placing in the ranked ladders. HOWEVER DQ for normal games can give incentives in the form of rewards like Hextech keys, hextech boxes, etc... (add some ideas here if u have any) REGARDLESS of the grade they get at the end of the match. Solo Players will then know what they are signing up for and will have less room to complain as the reward incentives will be worth the trouble. People that like to play with friends can do so, and the solo players that want a break from ranked and maybe gets some keys/chests can do so as well.
This is important if you are to maintain the integrity of the ranking of players and will also normalize things for ranked play and will also not PROMOTE boosting the way that DQ currently does. THIS is the only fucking way to make everyone happy, and this is the ONLY way to also maintain the integrity of the ranked ladders. (IMO)
If anyone has any other ideas or can add to my idea to make it even better or to even shoot holes in my proposed plan, please do so. I would like to hear what you all think!!! <3
Fact, this guy and many others had to explain it all the time shows how retarded Riot and huge group of DQ-fans are.
But who cares? Definitely not Rito.
Solo queue. Add it.
Or I will go to Overwatch and never come back.
It's a total poopstorm. Whatever algorithm they're using is screwing up with norms too. Sometimes I want to chill, listen to some music, and play a new champ in norms, but even that is kinda ruined when Im gettin queued with dudes in B4 with sub 50% winrates. Im just like... Riot come on man.
Just wanted to say I love that uploader!
Nods, whats worse is these "new ranked" players only actually play until they reach the border/skin reward goals then they go back to spamming normals and arams and that UPSETS ME SO SO MUCH YOU TOOK OUR MODE SO YOU COULD HAVE A BORDER THEN BAIL BACK TO YOUR QUEUE ONCE YOU DYNA BOOST TO IT!?!
Even tryndamere cannot out rage me on this sort of crap.
Exactly, playing for fun has been the normal mode for every game. Ranked has always been about people trying hard and not for goofing off with friends.
If you're below D5 I doubt DQ has a significant impact on your ranking life. It's problems are really in the highest level of play
Yes, in high-elo. I think DynamicQ works nicely below that threshold because people don't gain much from Premading together unless they're getting boosted which is an entirely different issue with smurfs.
Also, i'm not sure how the badges are supposted to work. Do they give them based on your last 25 games and they stay, or do they change as you play more games?
