riot loves "counterplay" and "balance"

BlueBuffandChill·Jan 18, 2015·2 votes·896 views

Rito says they want counterplay and balance lmao ok so how do we counter a knockup? WE CAN'T! HOW DO WE COUNTER HOURGLASS?(SITTING THERE FOR 2.5 SECS ISNT A COUNTER) WE CAN'T! HOW DO WE COUNTER TRUE DMG? WE CAN'T (HP ISNT A COUNTER) HOW DO WE COUNTER CRITS? WE CAN'T! HOW DO WE COUNTER SUPRESSIONS? lmao I have to waste a 1.2k gold just because of a champ someone else picked and there is only magic resist on it and it doesn't build into anyone AP item wow good one riot! Why do high mobility champs have high movespeed? Who the fu** knows why! why do low mobility champs have low

movespeed? Here is a list of champs that need the nerf bat to the jaw: I ain't even mad lol

19 Comments

Cale017Jan 18, 20154 votes

Your use of profanity and caps lock would indicate that, contrary to your statement, you are in fact mad.

BlueBuffandChillJan 18, 20151 votes

Your logic is horse shit in a box

Cale017Jan 18, 20154 votes

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Your logic is horse shit in a box

Your mad is showing.

Fury and EmperorJan 18, 20152 votes

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Rito says they want counterplay and balance lmao ok so

All of your examples are ridiculously off base because you can't even think of a way to counterplay anything other than by buying items. In other words, you're not even playing the game, you're just running at the enemy and right clicking, and then you're complaining because you can't buy an item that will win the game for you.

how do we counter a knockup? WE CAN'T!

Dodge the tornado/spikes/slingshot/burrow/don't get auto attacked 3 times in a row by an easily peelable melee/etc. As you may notice, they're almost all skillshots, meaning you can move the mouse and click somewhere else and you won't get knocked up. Imagine that.

HOW DO WE COUNTER HOURGLASS?(SITTING THERE FOR 2.5 SECS ISNT A COUNTER) WE CAN'T!

Hit someone else, then toss a stun his way at 2.51 seconds.

HOW DO WE COUNTER TRUE DMG? WE CAN'T (HP ISNT A COUNTER)

Dodge the skillshots. Counter true damage auto attacks the same way you counter all auto attacks: kite, cc, nuke, disengage (even more so for silver bolts, which even requires 3 uninterrupted auto attacks. If you can't figure out a way to not get auto attacked 3 times in a row you don't belong in a competitive game).

HOW DO WE COUNTER CRITS? WE CAN'T!

Same way you counter all auto attacks: kite, cc, nuke, disengage.

HOW DO WE COUNTER SUPRESSIONS? lmao Channelled ability, have your team stun him. Channelled ability, have your team stun him. Don't let the slow scorpion with no gap closer get into melee range.

BlueBuffandChillJan 18, 20151 votes

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RaptameiJan 18, 20152 votes

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U r a dipshit Vayne has a flash every 3 secs

Totally.

malzahar insta kills

Totally.

skarner can flash on you

And you can flash/dash/jump/blink away and now he's stuck in your team and dies.

Darius ults you 383836262 true dmg and has a free ignite

LOL he's complaining about Darius LOL.

and kiting and disengaging doesn't mean you are magically immune to crits

Auto attacks that don't happen have 0% chance to crit.

JernzyJan 18, 20151 votes

where's reksai?

BlueBuffandChillJan 18, 20151 votes

She got nerfed already lol

deadlychuckJan 18, 20151 votes

i think part of the issue is that riot seems to consider champion select a part of "counter play", which it shouldn't be. Champion select should give a base line of who has the advantage in the lane, but no champion should be so strong in the hyper early game (like before they recall for items the first time) that the only counter play to them is to counter pick them.

Registeel1234Jan 18, 20151 votes

I actually think it's a good thing that item 3140 doesn't build into AP items, because AP have item 3157

For the nerf request, I don't agree on Darius , Lissandra , Riven , JarvanIV , Fiddlesticks , Udyr , Syndra , Morgana , Leblanc , Xerath , XinZhao , Kalista , Nasus

Darius needs a rework. He too powerful early game and useless late game Lissandra isn't OP at all. I don't understand why a lot of people want her nerfed... She MAYBE need a small nerf to her damage Riven same as liss, but MAYBE a CD increase instead JarvanIV if you're trapped in his ult, he's doing his job. He MAYBE need a nerf to his ult range Fiddlesticks learn to ward and you'll be fine Udyr CC kills him. MAYBE a little too strong in the early game Syndra Only need more counterplay on her ult and hitbox fix Morgana she need you to stay at one place in order to kill you. She may need to tweaks on her Q (increase missle speed for smaller hitbox) Leblanc DFG is the problem Xerath he only need a higher CD on his Q XinZhao need some tweaks on his damage, but that's all Kalista She's fine the way she is. The fact that she can't cancel her AA is really bad Nasus TriForce with Q is the problem

BlueBuffandChillJan 18, 20151 votes

Lmao what do you consider op if you don't think they are. riven can kill you before her stun wears off same goes with liss and her ult

DoraTheBrownJan 18, 20151 votes

dun change my xin zhao plz just make him do most damage

JernzyJan 18, 20151 votes

Lissandra is ungankable and can initiate whenever she wants because of her E range and safety from her ult and w. She basically has a Zhonyas and Amumu ult combined into one ability. Jarvan does way too much damage. His ult shouldn't even be allowed to do damage. Xin Zhao has perma-cc. He has no skillshots, he's way too easy to play for the amount of damage and cc he has. With red buff you can get a guaranteed 150% gank.

Zair UmbrasJan 18, 20151 votes

Well, Liss is gankable and is definitely a lot easier to gank compared to Ezreal, LB, Fizz, Ahri, Heimerdinger, Syndra, Tryn, Shen, Swain, Kat, Lee Sin... The list goes on really. Many champions are incredible at escaping ganks due to the fact that they have incredible escapes with the exception to a few like Syndra, Heimer, and Swain who simply have perfectly disengage-then-reengage abilities. If Swain lands the W and follows up with a E+Q, the gank is not only over, but now he's getting a free kill off that jungler. Heimer is hilarious because he WANTS you to come near him and with your jungler being melee, they gotta get near his turrets to get near him and thus are taking free damage the entire time. Then there's of course Syndra who can very quickly drop a Q, then E+W+R for an incredibly fast combo that'll kill any non-pure tank jungler early on. If she doesn't have her R yet, well, she can still Q and E them away from her as well as stunning them in the process.

J4 has incredible mobility, damage, and CC. Pretty harsh kit. Could use some damage reductions.

Xin is a ganking jungler and provides nearly nothing to the game if he can't get fed off ganks. Unlike his counterpart J4, he doesn't have a bubble, his CC is a knock up and a knock back. The knock up requires 3 AA's and his knock back only applies to the targets he's NOT hitting with his AA's/E. He's pretty squishy without the bubble or bonus armor J4 has and his damage is heavily reliant on AA's and his gap closer isn't really that big of a range. His E does slow at least and with red, he can keep a target perma-slowed, but he suffers from Squishy Jungler Syndrome and is not a wise choice if the enemy is a Squishy Murderer like Fizz, Renekton, or Syndra. He also hates Heimer turrets. The Donger's turrets after landing that E will make the poor guy cry.

DoraTheBrownJan 18, 20151 votes

dun change my xin zhao plz make him like his release

UberAffeJan 18, 20151 votes

"HOW DO WE COUNTER HOURGLASS?(SITTING THERE FOR 2.5 SECS ISNT A COUNTER) WE CAN'T!" Hourglass is a counter to burst champs and burst champs/cc are a counter to it

"HOW DO WE COUNTER TRUE DMG? WE CAN'T (HP ISNT A COUNTER)" Good point- there needs to be a counter for true damage

" HOW DO WE COUNTER CRITS? WE CAN'T!" There is a mastery for that, Reinforced Armor reduces damage from crits by 10%

"HOW DO WE COUNTER SUPRESSIONS?" item 3222 item 3140

"lmao I have to waste a 1.2k gold just because of a champ someone else picked" Doing something because of someone else is almost literally the definition of counter

"and there is only magic resist on it and it doesn't build into anyone AP item wow good one riot!" Good point there should be other items like Mikael's

"Why do high mobility champs have high movespeed? Who the fu** knows why! why do low mobility champs have low movespeed?" High mobility are meant to move fast

As for the nerfs more or less what Registeel1234 said.

Knight SoIaire Jan 18, 20151 votes

how do we counter a knockup

we dodge

HOW DO WE COUNTER HOURGLASS

hourglass is an item that has allow apc's to live despite their natural weakness to being atacked once they blos their skills up its natural it has no counter

HOW DO WE COUNTER TRUE DMG

build more hp or kill the true dmg dealer

HOW DO WE COUNTER CRITS

armor wrecks crit lw wrecks armor (thats a problem, crit is fine here)

lmao I have to waste a 1.2k gold just because of a champ someone else picked and there is only magic resist on it and it doesn't build into anyone AP item wow good one riot

i have to agre qqs sucks to the point where i feel punished by buying it over any other item (its an one trick pony item, you remove one cc per some time and it does not help you to survive other ppl charge at you)

your list sucks btw most of those guys need a rework instead of a nerf (nerf would just make them less of a nuisance to deal with for some time, then they would get back up)

BeatzBoyFTWJan 18, 20151 votes

Looks like someone's elo-boosted.

TrentBatNAJan 18, 20151 votes

How in the world is Darius, Lissandra, Fiddlesticks, Udyr, Morgana, Xin Zhao, Kalista, and Nasus OP? They're clearly balaced, and some are even weak in the current meta. Also, Riven is balanced unless you have a noob going against her, in which she will become the antichrist.