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Pantheon Nerfed? ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIOT???

Steel Cold Soul··3 votes·905 views

They nerfed his ult where now if you cancel it it goes on 30 second cooldown. doesn't refund mana, and his e does less damage, and his damage ratio went down by a total 0.6 points. ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIOT? PANTHEON FALLS OFF SO HARD LATE GAME AND YOU LISTEN TO SOME FKING CHILDREN COMPLAINING ABOUT HIM WINNING TOP LANE THE LAST TWO WEEKS? WOW HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF SOMETHING CALLED SELECTIVE FEEDBACK? MAYBE CONSIDER WHOS COMPLAINING AND WHY? BUT REALLY? REALLY? he falls off late game already.

HE FALLS OFF SO HARD LATE GAME ! FINE HE FALLS OFF. BUT NO JUST MAKE HIM SUPER BAD LIKE SWAIN AND URGOT, BUT AT LEAST YOUrre SOMEWHAT BUFFING THOSE TWO.

if anything buff him or leave him the way it is. i hope you take less than an entire month to revise. "OH HE WAS WINNING SO MUCH THE LAST TWO WEEKS". and what, this patch will be for a month or two? MAYBE IF PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING FOR IDK, 6 MONTHS STRAIGHT and all the poles say he is top tier then fine. but no one is saying that. every tier list we've seen says A to C tier.

took them an entire season+ to fix urgot. lets hope they are more competent about this one.

Hopefully they do remove my post for it not sounding like a 5th grader wrote it. Hold on let me get banned for two weeks for saying "worth" . Hold on, let me ban people from a game they pay for for it because we are the most popular MOBA, we don't care about the fans, and we'll just ban you anyway and not care. k. Hopefully the right people see this and make the change fix in this PSUEDO SJW COMMUNIST COMPANY.

  • -sincerely - more than two dozen Pantheon players complains in one message collectively. We all hate this change.

16 Comments

Envy Sin2 votes

Nice way to put the post.

Not making any clear arguments, showing numbers or otherwise SHOWING why it was a unneeded nerf. Or why he should really be buffed. (personally i say drop his move speed a little and he would be fine with his old numbers)

But yep i'm sure riot will respond to this.

Steel Cold Soul2 votes

he falls off so hard late game. what more do i need to say. and i quote from what they said "he's been dominating the last two weeks". what more need i say.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

How about some actual reasoning? Due to the the new items, he got heavily buffed this season, but was flying under the radar for a while. Because games tend to be more snowball-y, he was in a position where he often didn't fall off, because the game ended before it got to that point. His skills are point an click, so there was no way of counterplaying getting jump stunned, and then 100-0'ed due to crits with the armor pen he built.

And even then, sometimes lane bullies need to be toned down -- Renekton is a famous example of this.

Steel Cold Soul1 votes

did pantheon receive any buffs?

BladeSteel1 votes

Yes because of keystones and item changes he got indirect buffs.

Faie1 votes

Yes he did. AD itemization is much better now, Armor Penetration is easy to buy. Duskblade is an amazing item on him. Thunderlord's Decree is a great on him. The overall game time got shorter, so his power spike lasts for more of the game.

So yes, he got indirectly buffed.

Envy Sin1 votes

Okay since you need examples...

Pantheon currently has a very strong early game this is true.

This is because. -He has the highest base MS in the game, Making it easier to gank/Trade in lane. -Being a AD caster means he's not reliant on lots of attack speed. -E passive makes it easier to clean up kills+last hit. -Point and click stun -High poke -High early game pressure at 6. -Block can stop a tower shot, which is a life saver in dives.

Pantheon does have very clear weaknesses though. -Very mana hungry. 4-5 Q's and he's running on empty. -Thought item changes to AD made him better, There are even better choices like Yi, Xin, Udyr who got even better buffs with the item 3124 changes. which has pretty much pushed him out of the jungle. -Recent nerf to Thunderlords hit his damage already. -Falls of late (because current junglers outclass him, As do most tops once they get some items)

You get the idea? Point out key weaknesses, Reasons for his power. (honestly this is all i can think of.)

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

SO IS RENEKTON AND YOU'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT

Willing to bet you've never really read patch notes

GotShivGG1 votes

Late game doesn't matter if you snowball so hard that it ends in 20 minutes.

Steel Cold Soul1 votes

this sir is a great point. but that is the challenge isn't it? did pantheon receive any buffs?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Yes. Favorable itemization and mastery changes

GotShivGG1 votes

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this sir is a great point. but that is the challenge isn't it? did pantheon receive any buffs?

Thunderlord's gets instaprocced by his E, Corrupting Potion can't keep up with his harass like Flask 3 pots could, same with potions in general costing more, Cleaver was changed to be more AD heavy, Ghostblade was changed to be perfect for AD casters and TP got nerfed

xdeviltwinkiex1 votes

His e doesn't instaproc thunderlords, it only procs if the enemy laner is stupid enough to stay in it or you stun them. just make his q a skill shot that to me would be fine. His e got nerfed a little to much in my opinion.

Surfer Ashe1 votes

Pantheon's E didn't deserve to lose that much damage, especially for a shitty channel that only works if you're fed. Base and scaling ensure it's shit at almost every stage now.

The R nerfs would've been sufficient with his map pressure, and perhaps a light tap on his Q (seeing you can't dodge that and it's oppressive as fuck). Trashing his E was a poor decision.

Envy Sin1 votes

Agreed, I would say it's hardly worth putting points into anymore. Seems like autos would do more.

Ricky Spanish DC1 votes

Omg his base damage is only 280 now-what shall we do?! Oh Rito you evil Pantheon haters. Of course Pantheon players are gonna hate this change because its a nerf. Nobody likes when their champ is nerfed. I dont think its ridculous that when you use your ult, you get a 30 second cd if you cancel, so you cant just use it to intimidate people and then cancel. He was op, and he is still a good champ now, so chill out and deal with it.

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