Stop Nerfing Janna's AP Ratios

Lucifer··20 votes·1,648 views

The problem is not, and has never been, AP Janna. If you're going to nerf her, you need to look at the frequency of her E or her passive or her base heals / shields. Most Janna's build very little (or any) AP, so it's frustrating to see you nerf AP Janna every single time Janna becomes popular.

Edit: And they nerfed her quick cast tornado again too. Riot, no one enjoys having to charge the tornado up, it's supposed to be a reactionary spell.

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AmazingBeaver4 votes

Why would you nerf Janna in 1t place like WTF , she is in a OK spot right now , the fact that some one beet your ass with her doesn't mean insta nerf ^^

Lucifer4 votes

This happens every single fucking season, and I'm SO sick of it. Janna has had more nerfs than any other champion in the game, and as an AP Janna main I'd had just about enough of it.

AmazingBeaver3 votes

Why would you main janna AP ? Like yeah her q does t good dmg shields and heals buff and all and but the utility - tank janna is rly good too.

Lucifer5 votes

I've mained AP Janna since the beginning of season 2. I fell in love with the concept of a "weather witch," and I find it really enjoyable to nuke people with Janna, because no one is expecting it. She has the trade off of dying in two hits and long CDs, so it's not over powered, but it's definitely a fun way to play her. You should try it sometime (before Riot finally /completely/ nerfs it out of existence)

AmazingBeaver1 votes

Bro i played AP janna but i like tanks more so i build tanky stuff and you can pretty much survive 5v1 easy . Not that AP isn't fun or anything but not the bets choice since you have to build 40% CDR to have a good clear and sustained DMG assuming you land tornadoes on them .

Lucifer1 votes

Oh, I don't play her mid. I play her as an AP support. You pretty much can't take her mid unless it's a very favorable match up, because her early game is just too weak. Usually you max W first and poke with it as a supp, then rush ludens.

AmazingBeaver1 votes

IDk whats the bigger evil ... playing her mid or ap sup xD I know a guy that went to Diamond just by playing Janna sometimes AD tho xD

A Miss Fortune1 votes

AD Janna is probably my favorite way to play her. Great self peel and her shield gives her 50 free AD basically.

Aeolian Melodies2 votes

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I've mained AP Janna since the beginning of season 2. I fell in love with the concept of a "weather witch," and I find it really enjoyable to nuke people with Janna, because no one is expecting it. She has the trade off of dying in two hits and long CDs, so it's not over powered, but it's definitely a fun way to play her. You should try it sometime (before Riot finally /completely/ nerfs it out of existence)

I do build my Janna with more AP than most for the amazing shield + heal.

Why they are nerfing Janna in the first place is beyond me. What, can't have someone else than Alistar Thresh Annie Leona Braum show up bot lane???

Catastrop1 votes

It's fun giving your ADC a 100+ ad steroid.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Irelia

Fadedpf2 votes

Fiora Meanwhile...

KatCraft2 votes

Why are they nerfing Janna at all. Alistair, Thresh, Braum, and tank supports in general are dominating. Janna is one of the few none tank supports that's viable and now Riot want to nerf her for no reason.

Vekkna2 votes

Yeah, this makes no sense. The correct fix here is to address the real problem, which is that initiate supports can secure kills to reliably Blitzcrank Thresh or are virtually impossible to kill Leona Braum TahmKench Alistar Shen

It's bizarre that they think Janna's is the problem instead of recognizing that engage supports are making her a mandatory choice amongst non-tank supports.

Lucifer1 votes

It doesn't help that they gutted Sona, so she's completely nonviable in competitive play (Janna's number one counter). Janna is the only one who can remotely deal with tank initiators from the "squishy" supports. And it's still a pain in the ass to play against Thresh or Blitzcrank as Janna.

Subject 52 votes

Sona Lulu Janna

"Uhm yeah, we are going to have to restrict you to one lane and one role only."

"Oh, uh. Why?"

"Well, you see there is this thing called the meta. Which stands for Stay the fuck bot so basically, we don't want the game being too diverse. Plus we will be nerfing you every season anyways, it's a tradition that we need to keep. You wouldn't want to stop a tradition would you?"

". . ."

"Good! See ya in bot lane! Remember, Sona you can't build AP even though you have AP ratios and Lulu, if we see you in mid or top lane again we will have to circumcise you. Also, Janna. My man Thresh has been chilling in the basement for a while now, why don't you go check on him? Wear that cute little outfit that we bought you. He would like that, okay bye! Remember you will be nerfed every patch! Except Thresh!"

And this was the day that Subject 5 entertained himself.

Matezoide1 votes

B-B-B-B-But muh Mejai's rush :{

Rozzeta1 votes

Sorry to ask, but what nerf? I can't seem to find it.

Diananmen Square2 votes

Her ultimate's ratio went down to 0.4 from 0.6 in the PBE

Syndrarella1 votes

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Rozzeta1 votes

Sounds like the mandatory tournament nerf. Janna is a counter initiator, which interferes with the flashy plays of most of the popular picks.

Pikmints1 votes

And the other nerf on the same patch they're planning on reducing the range of her Q. At full charge it goes the same distance but initially has less.

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

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And the other nerf on the same patch they're planning on reducing the range of her Q. At full charge it goes the same distance but initially has less.

Yes, can't believe they're still on the "full charged nado is actually used" train.

Penguin Eclipse1 votes

I'd rather they nerf her AP ratios than touch her E.

Meanie401 votes

Sona and Irelia say hi.

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