Yasuo's Windwall Should NOT Stop Taliyah's Ult

Lucifer·May 27, 2016·285 votes·12,008 views

It's a wall, not a projectile...

244 Comments

CaítlynMay 27, 201682 votes

It shouldnt stop anything because it completely nullifies half of LoL's roster.

Mandang0May 27, 201656 votes

As a non-ult, mind you!

And yet Riot's nerfing Azir's ULT because it does the same to the other half...

ZedexMay 27, 20165 votes

And its also the easiest thing to play around unless he holds it.

KetiMay 27, 20168 votes

I dunno yasuo standing inside his wall is pretty AIDSmobile

AnonymousPoroMay 27, 201616 votes

It even blocks Vel'Koz's E if you aim it behind the wall. IT'S NOT EVEN A SKILLSHOT

ZedexMay 27, 201634 votes

Vel's E places an area for the victim to react to and move out of before the real ability is launched a moment after.

Basically, Vel puts an indicator, then fires a projectile that blows up the ground there. So yea, it is a projectile, just not a clearly defined one.

BestTristMyHausMay 27, 201654 votes

While I know many will disagree, honestly Yasuo's Wind Wall shouldn't block ANY "ultimate" abilities. I know the genie is out of THAT bottle, but if Riot is going to claim that they removed QSS power because champs shouldn't be able to rip away a champ's power with one item, then another champ should not be able to nullify so many "ULTIMATE" abilities with a single NON-ult.

NO NOWMay 27, 201618 votes

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ZedexMay 27, 20164 votes

Well from that argument, perhaps you shouldn't just blast your ultimate when he has his windwall off cooldown. make him waste it and then play around it.

BestTristMyHausMay 27, 201619 votes

I'm not saying I (or many other players) CAN'T play around Yasuo's Wind Wall, I'm saying it's dumb that a basic ability can nullify an Ultimate, let alone MANY Ultimates like Yasuo's can.

By your argument, I could be looking to Ulti a champion THAT IS NOT YASUO and Yasuo (who may even be hidden by fog of war) could flash (or even more stupidly, "Sweeping Blade") in and totally negate my Ulti. But that's my bad, because if I EVER try to use my Ulti while Yasuo's Wind Wall is off cooldown then clearly I'm making a serious mistake.

NarasimhaMay 27, 20162 votes

By this logic, spell shields and Banshee's Veil should be entirely removed as well.

BestTristMyHausMay 27, 20162 votes

By the logic behind nerfing QSS, yes Banshee's Veil should also be removed
Both of those are single target only, but if Spell Shield (for example) didn't block Ulti's that'd ALSO be appropriate IMO (I admit I don't play Sivir much)
Both only block ONE single ability and only for ONE target. Wind Wall blocks ALL projectile abilities AND AAs AND does so for anyone on the other side (including structures like turrets) AND does so for SEVERAL seconds

NarasimhaMay 27, 20161 votes

So does Braum's wall. Are you fine with that?

statelesskillerMay 27, 20168 votes

at least braums wall requires him to take damage instead of it being completely ignore like yasuo wind wall does

NielarkenMay 27, 201619 votes

What makes it even worst is that he can block everything until it expires. It should at least fall apart after blocking an ult.

aLawfulFalafelMay 27, 20167 votes

yas W blocks more than braum W...

wat?

NielarkenMay 27, 20164 votes

Yep all because braum can move.

RocketRelmMay 27, 201623 votes

And takes damage + CC from what he blocks.

ZonkmanMay 27, 201623 votes

But yasuo taught her how to control her powers so i feel like its a fair trade off

Drunken MuttMay 27, 201629 votes

Lore clap

GrReaper96May 27, 20169 votes

Yasuo : I taught you just enough so you could be strong without overpowering me

CastmanMay 27, 201622 votes

Windwall so op it c*ock-blocked me irl.

Was talking to this pretty babe at the bar, she wanted my phone so she can put her number in there, Yas came outa fkin now where and windwalled as I was handing my phone over to her. My phone forever disappeared...

Edit: What's pissing me off so much is that it wasn't even projectile! Like I didn't toss the phone at her. I handed it to her. It's practically melee. But no. Windwall tooo op Rito nerf that plz

L0ve Is BlueMay 27, 201614 votes

There is a lot of things it shouldn't block if you ask me...

Biff ManlyMay 27, 201610 votes

Hey Riot, code Yasuo's windwall as a projectile so I can walk through it as Braum and make Yasuo cry the bitter baby tears he has caused in so many others.

After all, the windwall travels a distance, and takes time to do so. Isn't that your incredibly broad definition of projectile? The one you stated when you announced that you planned to eventually have Nautilus's ult count as one?

xeviMay 27, 20165 votes

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Hey Riot, code Yasuo's windwall as a projectile so I can walk through it as Braum and make Yasuo cry the bitter baby tears he has caused in so many others.

After all, the windwall travels a distance, and takes time to do so. Isn't that your incredibly broad definition of projectile? The one you stated when you announced that you planned to eventually have Nautilus's ult count as one?

I think it already is as two yasuos can cancel each others' windwall during the movement part the windwall. Once it stops it isn't counted as a projectile anymore WHICH DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHY ZILEAN BOMBS CANNOT GO THROUGH THE WINDWALL ONCE THEY ARE ALREADY PLANTED RITO PLS

Electric BuyersMay 27, 20165 votes

Yasuo's Windwall is actually coded like akjsdfhlaksfdjnga;fognalkdfjhgbv;kaefjngladfkjgleurfglsjmfgblaekrjhb

So it's not really a projectile. It's more like a... bullshit.

DessemMay 27, 201610 votes

Ahri Mystical soul-stealing powers and the ability to charm people?

Nothing some wind can't clear.

Blitzcrank A robotic arm shooting straight for you?

Nothing some wind can't help.

Jhin Magic-powered shells? Heavy artillery?

Nothing some wind can't stop.

Lucian Guns capable of putting even the damned souls of the shadow isles to rest?

Guns that can't destroy the wind.

Lux Compressed light?

Well, aside from the ultimate, wind beats light.

Veigar Powerful magic that obliterates even the mightiest of men?

Can't get past some wind.

AurelionSol Command the stars themselves? Create massive explosions of power? Powerful enough to create the sun?

Call back when you're powerful enough to beat the wind.

Honestly the one thing that bothers me most about Yasuo's Windwall is how it makes zero sense from a narrative point-of-view.

BestTristMyHausMay 27, 20165 votes

Apparently "Wind/Air" is the most powerful element: Nami - Super rolling wave of water? Air trumps water! - Flaming balls of death? Air trumps fire! Taliyah - Massive wall of earth? Air trumps earth!

It seems like at least ONE of those should beat air. (And yeah, the concept that invisible air defeats light is also dumb)

Chief MayonnaiseMay 27, 201611 votes

Yet surprisingly, Cloud Drake is the most unwanted dragon. Rito Pls

ShatoSummonerMay 27, 20169 votes

In all honesty, they need to classify what Yasuo's wall can block by what it is in the game rather than what it is mechanically. It may be coded as a projectile, but it really isn't. Auto attacks, fireballs, thrown cards, those are projectiles. Massive pieces of earth are not.

IronwallJacksonMay 27, 20168 votes

Making it block all projectiles (with the exception of some over/under ones) makes the ability mechanically consistent rather than creating loads of exceptions that force you to learn them all on a case by case basis. The ability's current iteration works well and it's not the game is logically consistent anyway.

Rand0mH3r0XMay 27, 20167 votes

Season 7, League of Walls League of Legends: Modern Wallfare I've got wall-fare to hand out for everyone here.

PennsMay 27, 20167 votes

At least it doesnt disappear :^)

Vistha KaiMay 27, 20166 votes

Needs Mexican Yasuo skin first.

Rand0mH3r0XMay 27, 201620 votes

You mean presidential Yasuo. He builds walls and doesn't let anybody through. Especially not Taliyah at the moment.

MhihnjMay 27, 201624 votes

#MAKE IONIA GREAT AGAIN

BeldairMay 27, 20164 votes

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Words can not express anything XD.

Hello I am BirdMay 27, 20167 votes

Are those emojis...

I have lost faith in the human race.

BeldairMay 27, 20165 votes

It's applause.

Photos of GhostsMay 27, 201614 votes

A wall of them.

GlîtchyMay 27, 20163 votes

Actually the wall and deporting thing is under Taliyah's and Poppy's control.

#PoppyAndTaliyah4President2020

IronwallJacksonMay 27, 20166 votes

It is a projectile. The seems to work like a Vel'Koz's fissure of Braum's ult, in that her ult travels to the wind wall, stops once it makes contact, but the zone it leaves behind is unaffected.

AstôlfoMay 27, 20162 votes

Uh, which should not happen.

IronwallJacksonMay 27, 20162 votes

All of those abilities are projectiles because they behave like projectiles do in League of Legends. Which is to say that they spawn, aren't minions, and have a travel time. So yeah, man, it should happen.

dapositivevikingMay 27, 20169 votes

(arent terrains coded as tightly clumped minions or did they finally change that)

you are right though. all those abilities, unlike stuff like lux ult or xerath q, all travel down the skill shot no matter what the particles are supposed to represent.

IronwallJacksonMay 27, 20166 votes

Basically everything in League is coded as minions, so it wouldn't surprise me if Taliyah's wall, like so many other abilities, is a bundle of minions.

dapositivevikingMay 27, 20165 votes

its minions all the way down...

HollowchazzMay 28, 20161 votes

TO be fair yasuo really isn't that hard to deal with, Hes no zed. but yeah taliyahs ult is underground and the windwall is above ground so a wind wall shouldnt block an earth wall... Does it block nami's ult? i dont think ive seen a yasuo windwall a tsunami.