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How Riot misshandled the proggression update

Purple Nim··4 votes·451 views

In a world where your time is a currency in online games, people that have spent countless hours in a game look for a single thing. It is not free loot. It is not even premium currency or unlocks. Its very simple really - they seek recognition for their efforts. So when you see all these complaints about the leveling changes and the comparisons to HoTS, its because people want for their time and effort spent during the years of playing to be recognized by everyone in their games. Your changes to the system are good and healthy to the game, don't confuse this for a rant against change. But in your eagerness to please everyone you messed up when it comes to the people that have been here for years and no we don't want free loot. All we seek is aknowledgement and recognition. I sencerely hope that by the time the changes hit us you would've reevaluated the way you handle older players in relation to the level update.

I hope you keep doing the great job you've been doing for the past 9+ years (I realize you had the game in development long before your beta release). There are always mistakes when it comes to constant change but there is no shame in doing a mistake as long as we learn from them and get better and in my eyes you've been doing just that. Sincerely from an old closed beta player who doesn't post very often.

EDIT: I guess I have to clarify that I'm not talking about the runes issue, I'm talking about the account level changes and how once the update hits there will be no distinction between someone who just hit 30 and someone who has played for years.

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La Bello1 votes

the people that have been here for years and no we don't want free loot. All we seek is aknowledgement and recognition

CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:

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Purple Nim1 votes

There is a thing called greed

ZephyrDrake1 votes

"all we seek is acknowledgement and recognition"

yeah... if by that you mean constant whining because they aren't getting 999999999999999 free BE so they can completely buy everything that the store has to offer and then proceed to complain about not having anything else to spend said BE sure looks like people seeking recognition

Purple Nim2 votes

You immediately lump recognition with loot and me asking us veteran players to be distinguishable from newer players as seeking higher BE rewards for the runes.

Did you even read my op or just the title?

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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You immediately lump recognition with loot and me asking us veteran players to be distinguishable from newer players as seeking higher BE rewards for the runes.

Did you even read my op or just the title?

i read everything and i have seen what everyone has said and everyone else is just essentially "i want to be refunded in full, screw you riot! i want all of the BE!"

So i don't think you actually know what veteran players want and are just talking about what you want and maybe some veteran friends of yours

DariusDemiurge2 votes

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i read everything and i have seen what everyone has said and everyone else is just essentially "i want to be refunded in full, screw you riot! i want all of the BE!"

So i don't think you actually know what veteran players want and are just talking about what you want and maybe some veteran friends of yours

False, most people just want a more meaningful return than the pittance riot is giving. The near 10% return is a joke. Most don't want 100% not sure where you get that from.

But the forced necessity that was the runes of old put a lot of people behind, you know people that supported the young up start company. Not everyone from season 1 has everything and 1 million remaining ip. Some people had lives outside of living on the game. Those people are getting jipped, the middle ground players are getting jipped. You know those who started in more recent seasons like 4/5/6 where they really have no way of farming everything in a realistic setting.

Top on the fact that this blue essence shop is going to be limited supposedly, it is just dumb. I'll be irritated if I miss it or can't afford the Morgana/Kayle related items because real life and being a long time player was justification for me to only get a pittance on something I had to work hard on.

Again most vets ain't asking for 100% drop that shit.

Sincerely, a season 1 vet.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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False, most people just want a more meaningful return than the pittance riot is giving. The near 10% return is a joke. Most don't want 100% not sure where you get that from.

But the forced necessity that was the runes of old put a lot of people behind, you know people that supported the young up start company. Not everyone from season 1 has everything and 1 million remaining ip. Some people had lives outside of living on the game. Those people are getting jipped, the middle ground players are getting jipped. You know those who started in more recent seasons like 4/5/6 where they really have no way of farming everything in a realistic setting.

Top on the fact that this blue essence shop is going to be limited supposedly, it is just dumb. I'll be irritated if I miss it or can't afford the Morgana/Kayle related items because real life and being a long time player was justification for me to only get a pittance on something I had to work hard on.

Again most vets ain't asking for 100% drop that shit.

Sincerely, a season 1 vet.

sincerely someone who thinks he speaks for everyone.

Sorry but i don't care what ONE random person says since i see what everyone says in every single thread. They were not happy with what they were given before, they are not happy now. People essentially want everything back 100% of it. You can keep saying no all you want. Every single little thread that i see regarding this says otherwise

Purple Nim1 votes

You do realize that the people talking on these boards are the vocal minority, right? I haven't posted almost anything since they wiped the old forums and most players never even look here.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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You do realize that the people talking on these boards are the vocal minority, right? I haven't posted almost anything since they wiped the old forums and most players never even look here.

ok and? the vocal minority is what people see and that is what they hear. The rest of the players could be just as pissed as them or not care at all but since there is no way for me or anyone to know what they think about this we can just speculate.

YuGiHo1 votes

even if people could do that, the BE store is going to be a limited time thing and when it leaves people with nothing to spend their ip on now will still be in the same spot, the will just have much less of it .

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