Support items

CaptinKeen·9/26/2015, 6:58:00 PM·1 votes·1,807 views

Frankly, I find it insulting that - with the complexity of jungle items, and the plethora of items for everyone else, as a support, I get to chose:

An item that gives me gold passivly An item that gives me gold for poke Or An item that gives me gold when I last-hits minions - for someone else! Provided they even let me. Which, by the time the item is completed, they never do!

And these wonderful items then build into: A shield for someone else A speed-boost for everyone else Or a slow

I mean ... is that all they have the imagination for? In which way would the game be broken, if supports were allowed to have fun?

(And it's not that I don't have fun - it's just that I have fun despite itemization, not as a result of it)

28 Comments

Environmentalist9/26/2015, 7:06:04 PM1 votes

As a support main, I really don't mind. I don't even usually complete the support items, unless it's talisman on blitz or thresh. item 3222 item 3023 item 3504 item 3050 item 3060 are all wonderful support items!

CaptinKeen9/27/2015, 7:52:32 AM1 votes

I want Riot to make my role fun.

I want the ability to make (support) plays. I want items that enable me, as support. I don't want damage, as such - tho for the life of me I cannot see how it would be a bad thing. If I can have an item that lets me share the gold for minion kills .... then why the screaming **** can I not have an item that lets me share kills for champion kills - giving me the assist gold and a team mate the kill gold?

Instead I get a choice of items that are highly dubious - items that, frankly, have a very high chance of NOT DOING ANYTHING AT ALL. Talisman of Ascension - in a solo queue game - very often achives absolutely nothing, because no one agrees what way to run. So in essence, rather than engage or run away - everyone just runs around like headless chickens slightly faster.

And again: With the amount of effort invested in making interesting jungle items, it is incomprehensible to me while support needs to make to with a selection of three utter junk items. There are more than three, but the three designed specifically for support are pretty much the worst items the game has to offer.

Targons Brace is, hands down, the least well designed item of anything in the game.

Krashino9/27/2015, 7:56:57 AM1 votes

Pssh, I enjoy my Support games. Its a different experience, sometimes it a bit more relaxing. Sometimes its almost as hectic as another lane. SOMETIMES you take a Troll Support and just crush. SOMETIMES you end up being a Support that ends up dealing even more damage than your entire team. SOMETIMES you go Malzahar Support and slaughter your opponents...

Mia Hanoka9/27/2015, 8:54:18 AM1 votes

When I was maining supports I made support plays all the time. if your not making plays as a support its cause you dont have the no guts no glory type of attitude. As a support I think hard fast an on my feet cause any thing I see that the team misses can be the chance for me to set up the game changing plays no matter the type of support I play. healer, sona, or tank you can make them sexy plays.

seems you lost your way my child let me guide you on the path to support god plays.

you dont need to have items like rab cap and echo's all you need is the items that you can use an abuse to break the will of your foes.

the gold gathering item pend the one you pick determines the types of plays you will be making for now we will use talisman cause it in my book is the most powerful support item I have ever seen. this Item as you know gives your team MASSIVE boost in speed it can be used before a fight to close the gap and take your enemies by surprise cause they did not expect the speed boost you have made 1 massive play by shocking your enemy with your teams amazing speed increase suddenly YAYA SUPPORT!

another way it can be used your team is caught off guard but the initial contact was softer then it could have been use the speed buff to save your friends and make another type of golden play! Every one in your team has can rearrange them selves allowing the tank to get in the middle of the enemy team while your carries change round to the back and your fighter take up the middle stance. YAYA SUPPORT FOR GOLDEN SAVES WE LIVED IN A SITUATION OF HOLY FRELL AND WON THE TEAM FIGHT!

Finally the last way it can be used and this one is only in the case of a sudden burst out of a team mate. activate the time and run from the hard engage that is impending do to the sudden loss of one of your forces! YAYA WE HAVE A SUPPORT THINKING ON THE FEET AND SAVING TOWERS BY GETTING US TO THEM!

Wow one item three uses this is shocking I wonder what the other 4 can do for you.

Well lets talk about those useless ward stones OR ARE THEY? Hey did you know that wards save lives? warding bushes and commonly used camp spots can save your allies from a sudden burst attack while walking the jungle to stopping ganking in their tracks since you can back off to a safe area. also it allows you to set up on those camping re re's cause you can see them sitting in those bushes while your team tightens the noose on them. OMG THAT PLAY IS AMAZING THE SUPPORT ONLY HAD TO WARD THERE AND WE COULD GET A PICK ON A DANGEROUS CHAMPION! WAY TO GO SUPPORT YOUR WINNING THIS MATCH FOR US WITH OUT EVEN TRYING! "aw shucks guys it was only a ward"
Twin shadows this Item I love cause it hunts down the nearest enemy champions. this is great for mid-late game when your teams inventories fill up and they cant help as much with warding aside from yellow blue and red trinkets. plus its amazing in a fight if used correctly but that is later on. for now you and your ADC are roaming the map and you have a feeling enemies might be near by SUDDENLY YOU UNLEASH YOUR GHOSTS! they split off in two direction one behind you and one ahead of you and both hit champions with in the range 1 is the enemy tank waiting in your path to hold you down to its anvil with CC and the other is the enemy burst champ or ADC to act as the hammer that will shape you death! good thing you had twin shadows and used it it saved you from getting blown up by allowing you to turn on the softer enemy and kill it then either turn on the tank or get the hell out. YAYA THE SUPPORT PLAYS ARE REAL MAN LOOK AT THAT ADC GET FED LIKE A BOSS!

BUT WAIT THERE IS MORE THIS ITEM CAN DO! "GASP!" a team fight has just broke out and you team is winning HOWEVER those sneaky bad guys still had flash and had been hovering near a wall just in case they needed to beat feet and run. OH WAIT YOU HAVE THE GHOSTS! FLY MY PRETTIES FLY! they hunt down the sneaky goons preventing those super fly jukes! EVEN BETTER if they make contact those sneaky fools cant possibly escape as they are revealed and slowed to your team allowing your team to pick up them missed kills then push the base! OMG NO WAY THE SUPPORT MAKES THE PLAYS AGAIN I CANT BELIEVE MY EYES! "guys your embarrassing me!"

Banner of command I love this item for when I need to either boost the push power of a lane or help set it to an auto push lane. now aside from the Meh passive aura that helps your team withstand magic combat yeah rather blah I say. HOWEVER THAT ACTIVE! ok we cant win these straight up fights what do we have on hand that can make it so the enemy had to break off a member so we can do a 5v4? "Um I have Banner of command?" O.O REALLY GO POWER UP A CANNON MINNION IN ANOTHER LANE! you go do that putting it on a fresh cannon wave and clear some of the minion ahead in the lane while your at it you place a few wards from your trusty sight stone in the path that would be used to set up either a free kill or let you know that the enemy that left is coming back. By the by did you know that the banner of command active is permanent now? OH and that the boosted minion can not be hurt by spells or abilities even on hit one! yeah you can have up to 4 cannon minions blasting the enemy tower if they pushed the lane far enough up and your team does not hard push that lane and that buff makes them cannons HURT! DID THE SUPPORT JUST MAKE ANOTHER PLAY? NO WAY LOOK AT THAT WAVE PUSH HOLY I HAD NO IDEA THAT BANNER OF COMMAND COULD DO SO MUCH DAMAGE! "I know right thats why I always get it if I am going support."
Last item cause you have to get boots and those dont really make plays happen as much. ardent censer we are assuming your a support sona for this one. now by its self it is a rather um how you say sad item as you need friends to make it work and the more friends you have the better it works! now sona has a nifty thing since her big change and the cuddle zones appeared. SONA CAN MAKE EVERYONE FEEL HER SHIELDING GOODNESS! I know right its amazing your team does not have to be all together in one big knot but she can move the green sona aura around and give every one the shielding goodness OH WAIT THIS ITEM GIVE AN ATTACK SPEED BUFF TO THOSE WHO FEEL THAT GREEN AURA OF SONA'S! OMG NO WAY HOLD THE FRELLING PHONE DUDE! now its not a rock of solid thing BUT that extra AS even on an APC can make all the difference with them auto attacks from taking towers faster to getting that one last auto attack on a champion. OMG NO WAY THAT SUPPORT IS MAKING ALL THE PLAYS WE CANT STOP THE MADNESS LOOK AT THAT PUSH SPEED AND POWER! "awe shucks"

5 items you deem as worthless I have made plays with in countless matches! you cant possibly even begin to think about how those simple "worthless" items can turn a fight around. That is just the items that I felt like explaining that I use more often then others. I bet your imagination cant even formulate what I could do with them other items if given the chance. so when you say that an item is not note worthy or cant possibly be handy or cant help in any fashion that would benefit the team as a whole. slow your brain down and think about how that item might give and edge in a fight if you time it right. if you cant do that just play sona and use the items I have listed here you will win 9 out of 10 games as long as you keep your head and use your kit and your tool to their fullest!

Mia Hanoka9/27/2015, 4:52:01 PM1 votes

Sad fact is sad if this is about you first pick gold gather items there is not much for it.

Enchantment system: this cant work to apply a gold gathering type to an item as it is put on FINISHED items making it tough to do as a start of game thing unless rito can rework the system for upgrading with the same enchantment in place.

more variation in gold gathering items: basically this is taking the route that floods the entire item shop with 3 versions each of the gold items so that you can get the passive gold on that armband or active on hit gold from the spelltheifs on coin. this cant work cause again your flooding three different build paths into the store for a minor problem.

these would be the two simplest ways to make it flexible but they are still complex and would be a thing that riot would do as a preseason reformation rather then a simple mid season patch.

Truly Prideful9/27/2015, 4:57:59 PM1 votes

I don't think support means what you think it does. You choose support to sacrifice for the team and bring the extra utility and vision items. If that's not something you like, support probably isn't for you.

Also, there is nothing preventing you from buying the big stat sticks that everyone else does if you have the money.

QueenAqua10/2/2015, 7:04:25 AM1 votes

I actually really like the item 3092 . And I'm simply just happy that they're gonna be giving us alternate sightstone builds besides ruby. That's really the only item i have a problem with, lol. I am not a fan of getting ruby, only reason i get it is for the extra wards, i hate the obligated health.