Riot it's time you gave a concrete explanation about the support role and OTPs in general

SwainLaneWinGame·2/26/2017, 1:19:16 PM·7 votes·1,410 views
14 day ban because playing Nunu Support with Smite is "stealing other people's roles"...?

Following this thread in player behavior forum which literally has exploded overnight about a high elo nunu support OTP getting suspended... As well as what happened months ago with the singed smite support player also... Made me realize there's a larger problem here.

In the game we have the support role listed as support. Not adc support, not mid laner support, et al. Just the team's support. Now arguably the current meta (it wasn't always this way, mind you) is having the support player help the bot lane carry champ, however these two roles are not exclusive to each other as we have seen champs like bard released whom are designed for roaming (chimes spawn all over the map), as well as level one support invades of enemy jungle etc.

Now the crux of the issue here is that these players were banned (or threatened with permaban) for trying something outside of the box and "Meta breaking", etc etc. I'm not going to delve into the semantics of each ban and the controversy over them (I.e. Singed support player banned for "Not communicating" vs "not conforming"), let's just agree for the sake of argument that they were banned for doing something different that went against the "accepted norm" since they are one trick champion players and found a unique method to put their respective champs to use in the support role.

The issue we have is this: what is riots stance on the "Support" role within the game overall? Is support role ONLY allowed to be bot lane? I\are they exclusive to the "Carry" role player? If so, is there an official set time limit in lane? If they are the "team support", can we then take them to help a different laner instead? what if we want to utilize the support role to maximize a games win potential through a different and meta breaking strategy? E.g. Roaming counter jungler like the nunu support player with smite? I think you can see how things start to get hazy when we veer even slightly away from being stuck in bot lane babysitting another player.

Essentially the problem we are having with these players being banned is that they are One trick players utilizing the support role in an off-meta due to various exigent circumstances and not conforming to the (supposedly) accepted formulae of laning configurations.

Which brings me to the second topic of one trick players(ponies) aka OTPs; which is the question of are OTPs officially allowed by riot or not?

Remember that to play ranked you need 16 champs? Now in season 7 we have auto fill forcibly enabled, meaning that if, for example, you are a Riven OTP and select top/mid as your preferred role/lane, you still will eventually be forced to play something like support. Since inherently not all champions work well as support and not all support champions work as solo laners; this type of forced laning outside of the two preferred roles would negatively impact both the OTP and the rest of the team.

Since this effect may not only result in sub-optimal play of the OTP player, but also possibly cause a toxic/negative/problematic environment with the team as a whole, then perhaps some more strict guidelines regarding how many champions a player must learn how to play should be outlined.

TL;DR:

Should riot more clearly define the "support" role as exclusive to bot lane or allowed to roam/counter-jg, etc without fear of permaban because it's off-meta.

And, Auto fill discourages OTP play, so what is riots official stance on OTPs? Either make a stance against OTP players and enforce the learning of multiple champs before allowed to play, or disable auto fill and keep draft mode to the selected two roles (or bring back team builder).

29 Comments

dominusx2/26/2017, 1:31:04 PM6 votes

support isnt only exclusive to the trash adc player who needs a 24/7 12/12 365/365 babysitter. If you suck and our midlaner is good i WILL rotate to mid and get him even more fed and leave you do w/e the fk you want and carry with my midlaner. When i autofill the role says SUPPORT not the ADC'S BITCH just because currently the meta revolves that the support player stays bot doesnt mean i have to follow it strictly. At least that's how i think. back in the 1st seasons supports would double jungle and force dives specially with alistar i remember plays of alistar flashign wraith camp and combo'ing enemy mid to his team and getting 1st blood then go for dragon. So what do i mean with this? I'M SUPPORT the TEAM'S SUPPORT not your bitch mouse button 2 player.

About onetricks there is NOTHING wrong with onetricks as long as they have at least 1 champion for the support role which is the most frequent you gonna get autofilled to. Just play JANNA the champ takes negative skill. her skillcap is deep into the depths of tartarus and you dont have to do anything and get your LP since it's actuallly hard to lsoe with Janna unless you are legit trolling.

LostFr0st2/26/2017, 2:24:33 PM3 votes

The support Nunu was doing the same thing the Singed was; copy-pasting something into the chat and not communicating with his team. You'd think after the support Singed thread people that were doing that would have adjusted their protocol a bit...

sobi9992/26/2017, 4:23:42 PM2 votes

Just ignore the downvotes. I for one think you have made but valid points throughout your post, and made the post easily understandable. So many bitches in these forums i swear and hypocrites.

SilentBomber2/26/2017, 4:30:28 PM1 votes

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In the game we have the support role listed as support. Not adc support, not mid laner support, et al. Just the team's support. Now arguably the current meta (it wasn't always this way, mind you) is having the support player help the bot lane carry champ, however these two roles are not exclusive to each other as we have seen champs like bard released whom are designed for roaming (chimes spawn all over the map), as well as level one support invades of enemy jungle etc.

If you want to put that way then here is your answer.

You said it by yourself."Team's support" and not adc" which makes the majority's opinion stronger no?In a game in which there are various strategies it makes sense when players want to try all possibilities.But communication is a strong "must" for them to work.Otherwise,you risk yourself to get reported by disrupting your team mates calm.

Rules do not say "adc's support" yes.However,it's a fact the almost all games are played the usual way.Top,mid,jungle and duo bot.You start by supporting your adc and keep a close check to dragon which is an important asset to your team.If you want try something else you must inform your WHOLE team and not only your adc.If you tilt one team mate your whole team is tilted as well.

Hope i helped you out.Cheers.

Calabok2/26/2017, 6:57:03 PM1 votes

drama queen OP vying for attention