Phantom Dancer needs nerfs! Needs nerfs!

Rajinikanth Fan·Feb 18, 2019·3 votes·2,280 views

That shield passive is so dumb. Im going to warn you riot, every ad champion (top laner/junglar) is soon going to build phantom dancer if you don't nerf it!

10 Comments

LTK KoRoFeb 18, 20192 votes

you want to nerf PD, and that's good, but your reasons are wrong. PD won't be bought by anyone melee who's not trynd/yas. But you know who's too strong with PD?

EVERY FUCKING ADC WITH A ENCHANTER

good luck bursting ADC with 600 PD shield+500 shielding from lulu+500 bonus hp from lulu R.

Warlord RhinarkFeb 18, 20191 votes

Just revert it and reduce the damage reduction to 10%.

Sir SaltarinFeb 18, 20195 votes

No thanks the auto win duels just cuz I bought PD was a terrible design too.

Warlord RhinarkFeb 18, 20191 votes

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No thanks the auto win duels just cuz I bought PD was a terrible design too.

Yet no ADCs bought it.

Sir SaltarinFeb 18, 20191 votes

Becase only a few adcs want to actually duel, they itemizate for teamfights.

But old PD on champs as Tryndamere Yasuo was too strong on 1vs1 and that's why I dont want it back to be honest.

Btw, let's see if we play again toguether, last time was months ago.

Warlord RhinarkFeb 18, 20191 votes

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Becase only a few adcs want to actually duel, they itemizate for teamfights.

But old PD on champs as was too strong on 1vs1 and that's why I dont want it back to be honest.

And look at Yasuo now.

The change didn't make him weaker, it made him stronger.

Btw, let's see if we play again toguether, last time was months ago.

This game makes me depressed, but sure. I'll see if I can later today. No promises though.

Killer of Night9Feb 18, 20191 votes

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And look at Yasuo now.

The change didn't make him weaker, it made him stronger.

This game makes me depressed, but sure. I'll see if I can later today. No promises though.

The IE revert combined with the 20% true dmg convertion of conq made yasuo stronger not the pd. Before the true dmg of ie doesn't really work with conq it was since they scale multiplicat. But now they can sinergise aswell

Killer of Night9Feb 18, 20191 votes

U can limit it ranged only. Top and jungle is usually dominate by melee. Ranged ad champ are really low on this role ( Kindred Graves come into my mind but the first one share the same weakness of an adc, graves instead is problematic but i belive that old pd was better because it has a better atk speed which mean better jungle clear) Melee has already sterak so they won't build this item that much. Jungler and top laner if it's not trynda or yasuo won't get phantom since it's share the same passive of item 3053 . And in the specific case of this two, they can still opt for stattik and get sterak later so limiting ranged only is not a bad decision.

Rajinikanth FanFeb 18, 20191 votes

They need to increase the cost or something because this item is way too good for its price.

ThefrostyvikingFeb 18, 20191 votes

Current Phantom is needed though, i have had cases where i built it and still barely survive being dived at even with my entire team around me on fricking sivir (spell shield relevance).

Phantom needs nerfs? Burst overall needs nerfs too! Cant remove one and keep the other.