I was playing fiora and akali was building full damage. Not even ninja tabi! If akali build ninja tabi and bramble vest, I can say I got outplayed but she didn't. She is so hard to deal with. If I ask a gank, akali escapes without breaking a sweat. I feel like Riot need to increase akali w or e cooldowns.
EvilUnicornLord7 votesI think her W makes her too safe to play as.
Trades? She pops it. Ganks? She pops it. Tower dives you at level 3? She pops it.
Her E is just a skillshot and it's not too hard to dodge but that W wholly prevents all autoattacks and target abilities from connecting.
Z3Sleeper1 votesOP was referring to E moreso on how she can use it in tandem with W for pretty easy escapes.
Good Akali's will just hang on to those tools as much as possible for the possibility of a gank and try to only use their Q in lane until the enemy is within kill range.
DaBooosh2 votesWait why can't I duel Trundle as Janna Trundle is officially broken Even at full build I can't do it Wow [slayer-jinx-unamused]
Rajinikanth Fan8 votesit's akali top, and I picked fiora
fiora used to be a counter pick to akali
DaBooosh11 votesAkali isn't supposed to be tanky.
You didn't mention the gold difference.
Extra items make a big difference
In that game (i'm not sure if it was the game you were talking about because the player never builds ninja tabi on akali) you had ten deaths and three kills. I would expect a lot of those kills were handed over to your lane opponent(since you were talking about duels). At the end of that game, against Kratoss XXX, he had three majer items completed 
vs your two major items completed
She got quite fed, didn't she?
First item at 17 while yours at 21
Obviously she would out duel you with those items what do you expect?
You also shouldn't ask your jungler to gank a losing lane. A jungler's job is to help winning lanes snowball, not help losing lanes lose less. Losing lanes are more difficult to gank and are more likely to fail(because of the item and health difference + the minions to deal that extra damage).
If you didn't fall behind in the first place you might be able duel
Daze Clover1 votesIf I didn't feed and give 2 kills! If I just farm under tower I will still lose! Akali is bullying fiora out of lane! Akali is harassing me under tower!
Fiora is useless for the whole early/mid game and is only viable when the game is past 40 min. Stats to show proof: https://champion.gg/champion/Fiora/Top?league=
I legit have no counter play against akali.
Akali's q is so dam annoyingly strong against fiora. And if she makes a mistake, she uses e or w or ult. Too much free escape tools.
DaBooosh1 votesHere have a look, according to the stats on blitz, it says that Fiora wins lane against Akali 38.6% of the time. If a champion is a counter to another of course it would bully the countered champion out of lane! What would you expect? Wins lane = more gold = more items = more duels won Even your champion.gg stats says this 47.1% lane winrate vs akali.(but over 310 games instead of 666 games on my stats) Look at the stats and pick a champion that counters the other champion(unless you really want to play a certain champion). If you pick a champion that gets countered, then you'll need to be a bit more skilled to outplay your opponent or you'll lose lane. I seriously don't see why this is so difficult to understand. Also, if you know you'll lose duels don't duel if you don't have to.(like how Janna stays with her teammates) Try to get past laning phase without feeding(the worst thing you can do during this period) Avoid 1v1 encounters in mid/late game
agac42341 votesits becuase ur a AA based champion and guess what? she counters aa based champions pretty hard. and u cant W her Q and take no dmg from it
Subject 51 votes[{quoted}](name=blackops III,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w48cEd52,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-02T22:06:42.224+0000)
it's akali top, and I picked fiora
fiora used to be a counter pick to akali
Akali has the lowest base stats in the game. At lvl 2 you can chunk her hp with a vital, Q, E and just ignite and she's instantly dead.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Akali
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Fiora
Akali is literally a twig compared to Fiora, who can take punishment and heal it back up far more frequently than an Akali early and mid game. And I just want to REALLY put emphasis on this. **Like, super-duper emphasis: Akali starts with 23 armor while Fiora starts with 33 armor. Fiora not only has trading potential that is superior in lane because of her passive but her HP regen is more than double Akali's. Fiora has better AD stats, Armor stats, MR stats, superior AA range, and identical MS / HP.
As far as kit is compared, Fiora stomps Akali early on.**
Tahminatrix 1 votesJanna doesn't duel trundle in a traditional way, she makes him useless by knocking him away when he ults and knocking him up / slowing him if he continues to chase...
Fiora on the otherhand should be able to duel akali in a traditional way since akali has more reliance on mobility / burst and fiora is designed to be a duelist that doesn't get oneshot.
DaBooosh1 votesShe still needs her teammates to deal with Trundle. So just don't duel. Unless you're in the same lane(in this case yes) If confident enough in skill to be able to beat Akali in a duel then do it or else you'll probably lose your lane
Neopolıtan3 votesWait why can't I duel Trundle as Janna Trundle is officially broken Even at full build I can't do it Wow [slayer-jinx-unamused]
Are you seriously comparing a duelist with a support...?
DaBooosh1 votesIt's a bit of an extreme example but yeah Here's less exaggerated example why can't I duel Wukong as Yasuo? here I wrote it up there according to the stats on blitz, it says that Fiora loses lane against Akali 38.6% of the time over 666 games champion.gg stats says this 47.1% lane winrate vs akali. over 310 games wow that was complicated
agac42341 votesaccording to the stats on blitz, it says that Fiora loses lane against Akali 38.6% of the time over 666 games isnt that good? i mean 38.6% loserate is really good lmao i think u mean winrate.
DaBooosh1 votes[sg-lux-2] look at the comment Even if you read 'lose' you can use your brain and figure out what I mean. Since when did Blitz show stats as loss rate? Just look at the stats yourself instead of nitpicking. Stop wasting your time and do something productive
Sirsir1 votesThinking is hard kids
GodlyBane2 votescurrently fiora is an OK 1v1 champ and other then that she is complete shit right now.
Illabethe2 votesLulz. I can play 
and get erased by Akali.... even when I'm behind teammates and have already dropped Akali to 20-30% HP. Yesterday (I think) had one who would literally be caught in 1v3 after 1v3..... and every time she was getting charmed, she would W, and wait out the charm in smoke, and even if I R'd away, she would counter R through my teammates, stunning them, and then E me, and then I was dead. She would ofc die...... but took me with her every friggin time. I was literally counter playing her every way possible, and STILL dying.
This is why I have been saying on forums.... Once she's mastered, she's going to be more toxic than Yasuo. She's one of the few champions who can guarantee kills even if she gets killed, just because of how insane her output is.
This is what I think Akali is: She's not a champion. She's a set of skills that are controlled by game length, and energy gain caps, that when used fundamentally correctly, always does its job. If her team fails to do their portion, Akali will still have done hers, but lost. If her team compensates for her being a finite number of energy moves, she wins. But she will ALWAYS walk away with those kills....
Most other Energy assassins have resettable means by which to gain energy built into their skills. Akali's sole source comes from that Circle she leaves after damaging champs. In other words, she has access to less Energy restores than other assassins. But as a tradeoff..... her kit kills even if half of it misses.
Z3Sleeper2 votesMost other Energy assassins have resettable means by which to gain energy built into their skills. Akali's sole source comes from that Circle she leaves after damaging champs. In other words, she has access to less Energy restores than other assassins. But as a tradeoff..... her kit kills even if half of it misses.
Both her passive and her W restore energy.
IDEMO NA MUDA2 votesHow do you precisely plan on buying Hex (1300g), Ninja Tabis (1100g) = total of 2400 gold in EARLY game where you obviously are losing your lane and every trade you for some reason force to have?
Laceration2 voteswell you're an auto based champ and she can stop you from autoing. No items would make up for that. I don't think akali is actually that bad people just haven't caught on to her counterplay yet.
OnlyVelKozOnly2 votesIt's a CertainlyT champ you're not supposed to outduel them.
Tahminatrix 1 votesCan fiora proc vitals / hit akali with her dash while she is invisible?
The radius at which you have to be in around fiora is pretty small so riot should still allow her to hit akali in her shroud with it...
Afterall, katarina can throw knives at invisible enemies with her R.
Daze Clover1 votesYeah fiora can proc vitals. But still, it is extremely difficult because of the movement speed that akali gets with her w.
It was easy before the alkali rework because her w range wasn't that big.
Even Wukong is having trouble with Akali's w ability when he was meta, two or three patches ago.
I know this cause I watch the one of the best Wukong player's stream. His name is LoLHarambe.
HaIlMonitor1 votesYou forgot to take Nullifying Orb DU
VexingRaven1 votesDude I got first blooded from ~60% hp and ~800 units away by an Akali... Who started Doran's Shield (and had not backed yet, and we were both level 4). And I still died almost instantly. Are you kidding me?
Daze Clover1 votesyou are abusing shaco for elo
akali top is more cancer than akali mid
VexingRaven1 votes[{quoted}](name=Daze Clover,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w48cEd52,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-09-03T04:55:10.733+0000)
you are abusing shaco for elo
akali top is more cancer than akali mid
I ain't abusing shit. I've been playing Shaco for years, like most of the people "abusing" him for elo.
FixHealsRemoveGW1 votesSo what did you try exactly? if you don't tell we have to assume the answer is "nothing". Just run at her, get outplayed, blame balance?
Vztah1 votespeople hella crunching on shroud I don't get why this isn't her ultinate or why it's duration is so long if she plays with it like talon except more reliably
taleofsonata1 votesOh no the only ap champion that can go through hexdrinker, lets nerf her wewewewew. I would be fine if you nerf her but allow every ap champion to go through hexdrinker.
DragonShea1 votesAkali is durable in the early-mid game. Overtime she needs to build damage or she will not be able to burst anyone down.
chipndip11 votesAkali is meant to shit on carries, since carries normally use targeted damage, even the ap ones.
So you counter-picked yourself.
