With the new champ select, it's a bit odd that every game I need to manually resort the scoreboard considering that you know our designated lanes before we zone into the rift. Granted, it may not be perfect 100% of the time, but it's the best guess as opposed to the seemingly random order it is now.
Toru Itai25 votesTop Jungle Mid Adc Support
the same way they show it on that little map in new draft.
XeroKimo5 votes[{quoted}](name=Toru Itai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ybLRtB70,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-01-30T22:58:57.421+0000)
Top Jungle Mid Bot Support
the same way they show it on that little map in new draft.
ftfy
DrCyanide22 votesThat's actually a very good idea... like, really good.
Timewinder5 votesnot his idea it was on reddit for like a week
what about flex picks? make it so that only your side is in order and the enemy's is random
Serika Zero4 votesthey are talking about IN-GAME champion summoner icon when you press TAB
Timewinder5 votesi understand that. what if the enemy has two flex picks and you don't know who is going mid? but if this change were to go through, then you would know by pressing tab.
Fjork37 votesBy the time you get in game, it doesn't really matter; you'll already have had to set your runes and masteries without that knowledge.
ChaoticPinecone2 votesHe has a point. You have to respect a flash-w from Lissandra but you dont have to worry about invades from GP (watching the Dig v C9 game thats live now, where C9 has Liss and GP.)
edit - actually C9 has Morg support too. Youd really have to respect the Morg bind to a Liss W in an invade. Especially with a Nidalee burst at level 1
Serika Zero2 votesAt the beginning, the enemy team has to select just like your team who goes mid, who goes top, etc sometimes, these roles can be trades. Like: I get top, my pal gets mid. He hates mid, so I pick a mid champion, he picks a top champion, even though our roles say otherwise. Then the enemy will have our order reversed while inside the game, and they will have to manually adjust them. This does happen, true.
It also happens quite rarely. I've only seen a swap once in the past 30 games. Which means, over 90% of the time (the number is random, but its definitely over 50%), sorting the players list from TAB button by the order they selected their roles will be correct.
Nobody is asking to remove the option of manually changing them. So, having a "flex", or someone switching roles entirely (yes, it can and it might happen) is irrelevant to this entire story as you still retrain manual change option. And this is the part you seem to misunderstand.
TBH, I have games where I sort players, but in the vast majority of them. I just don't give a fuck about the order. Sometimes I like it clean and in order. But most of the time, who the fuck cares, I got to look to all of them anyway if I wana see their builds. I get where they are coming from, order makes it "easier" to see what CS your lane opponent has, what they chosen to build and so on. Except I don't mind taking another 3-5 seconds looking for my lane enemy on the tab lines and their build or cs. Whenever i'm doing that, I'm in a safe spot anyway (probably recalling and wondering why I wasn't able to 100-0 them :p)
Moonshade2 voteshe's referring to taking the role selection and pairing up the lanes with regards to where people picked to go. Since all teams will have 1 person per role (unless they're 5 maned in which case just have it work like it does now) make it so that in game the person with mid selected as their role is opposite that of the person on your team who selected mid as theirs, and so on for the other 4 lanes
Serika Zero1 votesIt doesn't matter. When was the last time "a flex" caused you to start your build differently?
Like, the enemy has Urgot. He might be mid, or he might be bot adc.
Hmm, your ADC will still go 
+
Your support will still do their usual start.
Your ap mid laner will still go 
+
The only time when you need different starts are like: top akali vs fiora/phanteon, you want 
+ {item:2003}} . But Fiora will always go top, so if you see her in champ select and without smite, you know she's top.
And even if the enemy top is AP damage dealer somehow, you can always either Swap or get 
later.
Like, the implication of "omg I know where my enemy goes where while we are in base" is as little as it gets. To begin with, in over 90% of the game, we know who goes where from the loading screen.
MrBuffington6 votesPre-sort it since that's the order that most players will probably use, but retain the ability to shift them around just in case some players use a different set-up
Khell DarkWolf4 votesglad to know I'm not the only one +1
Mr Fuzzy Nugget3 votesHoly shit GD's onto something. +1
ModWulf Helhammer3 votesAnd how would they decided how the scoreboard is sorted? Everyone has a different method of doing it: I like to always put myself and my lane/position opponent in the top spot, and then sort from there, whereas others like to just do it by General position. There is no way that they can "presort" the scoreboard tabs, as there is no way that they are always set.
DELI MEATS7 votesIf they sort it somehow it will at least be right for some of us.
ModWulf Helhammer5 votesAnd what's the problem with just spending the <10 seconds to just order them whoever you want? Are you really that impatient/wanting?
DELI MEATS3 votesNo, not really. I don't see where implying I'm impatient or wanting helps the conversation either. I'm just saying if it was in a set way every game some people wouldn't have to sort it and others would only minimally.
The Lexer8 votesIf it is pre-sorted, at least you would change the same things every time, instead of searching for what you need to change
DBFBlackbull1 votesThis is also better for you. Because if you know what role you picked you will always know where to find yourself and your lane partner so you can sort them to the top. So yes it makes it easier for you.
Also another crazy idea. Let us decide how we want the scoreboard sorted? Take general (top, jung, mid, adc, sup) just like we get a recommended items list, or do a custom sorting (me, you, whatever, whatever, whatever) just like we get a custom item list if we create it.
You cannot deny this as a good idea
AbyssionKnight3 votesHonestly, they should just add a 'save layout' button. So you reorganize to your desired order, hit save, and either client side or server side they'll save your configuration order. Then every time the game is loading it calls up the file with this configuration and places the roles in that order.
I don't know if the game actually keeps track of the role you are designated in the new system, but adding one additional variable to the data being sent from champ select to the game doesn't seem as though it'd be difficult to manage, or all that likely to cause bugs.
chipndip13 votesThe problem with this: If the enemy team is using flex picks, you'd know where they're going.
8Hz98hmIDG2 votesI always sort mine the same way while walking to lane.
Changes depending on who I am. If I'm support then I put myself at the bottom and my ADC at the top, Jungle second, etc.
That got off topic but I do agree with OP, I also was kind of annoyed with the loading screen. In champion select it's a random order on both teams already, so why does it have to change for the loading screen? At the very least, keep it all the same order as it is in champion select, just like it always was before.
lolptwo2 votesI personally like the ability to switch it to my preference rather than what everyone else does. Sometimes I do it in order of who's important, etc etc..
Bladerunner77772 votesJeez, this is hardly a problem.
Is it possible for the community to be satisfied for one patch
Womp1232 votesThat's a great idea! I always have to redo the order and it is kinda like a tick that you have to scratch off or something haha. This would make it a lot simpler.
Rakvir2 votesWhile I fully agree that it would be convenient, I am genuinely curious as to why people are compelled to re-sort it in the first place. I know who is playing which roles already so I look at the portraits and instantly know where information is (which I find it funny because under 90% of most circumstances I have stress-inducing problems of information overload).
But hey, if it helps people, I'll support it. No reason NOT to do it.
Wulfy1 votesIt facilitates seeing who is winning cs in various lanes.
Sevixys1 votesI use it like this: first, regardless of my lane
1.me 2.my support or jungle('duo lane') 3.mid 4.top 5.support or jungle
It helps keeping track on your team
DBFBlackbull1 votesI use it to simple know: "How is bot lane doing?". My eyes gravitate to the bottom two players on the scoreboard, and not for "Ezreal and Sona". It simply cuts out an action. Instead of going portrait -> score, I can go score directly, because I know where that score will appear on my screen when I click tab
11 Herb N Spices2 votes-_-
It takes literally 5 seconds to do while walking to lane...do it yourself
DBFBlackbull1 votes[{quoted}](name=11 Herb N Spices,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ybLRtB70,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2016-01-31T17:36:02.688+0000)
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It takes literally 5 seconds to do while walking to lane...do it yourself
Having to do it every time is tedious, and when you forget it you gets screwed over by it. There is absolutly no reason why this shouldn't be done for us by the computer. A computer designed to automate tedious tasks
Lugg2 votesI'm glad I'm not the only person who hates that.
KitsuneTrickster2 votesI WAS THINKING THE SAME THING I WAS JUST TO LAZY TO COMPLAIN LOL TY
Rismonaught1 votesIt would be nice to know which lanes my enemies picks are in.
Wait, maybe it would be too nice
Carpe Victoria1 votesThe only real technical issue with that is it wouldn't be able to load lane swaps from the start. And just for my 2 cents, i couldn't care less what order it's in but considering i've heard tons of people say they reorder it every game i guess they should have options for it to load in a certain way.
dunkeroni1 votesThe in-game stuff is run on a different server and different program on your computer than champ select is, but that's not really a problem since it's a small amount of data.
The real issue is that though the server may know what lanes you all have, YOU don't know what lane THEY are taking. This affects peoples itemization if there is some question between mid/bot/and top lane champions (such as riven/sion mid, or lulu/teemo lanes)
Slamurai Jack1 votesWhile I don't disagree with your general point, there's absolutely nothing random about how it's done now. It sorts them in the exact order they were in champ select.
