Aatrox is unplayable! Once a legendary hero, now dead and remembered as a coward.

ChromeBeast··10 votes·1,435 views

TL:DR I've played so many games with Aatrox only to realise that I keep losing. There aren't many mechanics and I was p3 so I think I know my way around the rift to know that It's not me that's messing up. I lose nearly every match up as Aatrox, and it hurts my soul. Please fix him riot!

I love Aatrox. Easily my favourite fighter in the game. On release, I played him nonstop, then I went back to ranked where I was an ADC/Supp main and I was glad to see him getting some play. But that quickly died out, and I've only seen him a couple times in the jungle after that. From what I remember, he's been nerfed once really hard, and riot has been slowly buffing him back, not it's barely noticeable. Not to say they aren't appreciated, it's that it's not enough.

I was thinking with the Juggernaut rework that my favourite fighter might receive some love, but I was mistaken, he wasn't even touched. It hurts my soul to see my favourite fighter be forgotten. It's so bad that I haven't seen an Aatrox for the last 2 seasons! I've been playing since season 2 and I'm a casual player but I made it p3 in ranked so I think I know my way around a bit. I can probably say that I'm mechanically skilled enough to understand that Aatrox right now, no matter your skill level or build path is simply under the average requirement for a viable champion. He can do every sub par and absolutely nothing well. Every champion excels at some aspect in the game while being moderate at other and horrendous at the rest, but Aatrox doesn't excel at anything!

His play rate is abysmal! The rotation for this week included Aatrox and I've only seen one other Aatrox, and that was in an Ascension game. On summoners rift it's a rare sight to see him. He needs some riot love, really quickly, I don't want this champion to become like the old Vladimir, where he was hell to balance and constantly getting changed. I think Riot needs to put some thought and effort into fixing his issues. Some of them being his sustain being outdone by Darius or the fact that his base stats and basically missing, he's extremely squishy! His passive is nearly only effective in 1v1 situations because in team fights, more often than not, if you pop your passive, then you're in the middle of the enemy team. At that point, as soon as you become targetable again, you get wiped out, like the passive was useless. This isn't just a problem with Aatrox, but revive passives in general, but Aatrox has one so I decided to throw it in there. Now, as for his q, it's a solid ability, is E, another solid ability. W and R on the other hand are completely different animals. I feel as though Riots decisions on Aatrox either being a drain tank (A tank that damages himself to increase his damage output) or a sustain fighter is what determined his current situation. He's not good at either, but at release he was good at both. Since then his R has received a change where the number of enemies hit will increase his blood well passive amount, though I'm not exactly sure when that happened, regardless I can't really tell if it makes a difference or not. I feel as though his kit revolves around him being an auto attack fighter caster tank with no mana costs while still being mobile and a revive passive but that's just throwing too much onto one champion (Literally Yasuo without a revive passive, but that's for another time).

It hurts me to say that Riot really had to take a pick on what they wanted Aatrox to be instead of leaving it to the players, this is the one of the rare times that leaving a champion in the hands of the player base has failed because the champion did not have the tools to get the job done after the changes. Aatrox needs some love, he has a great design, but a kit that doesn't really work in the current meta or any meta after he was released for that matter.

This was a rant, I was a little upset at my recent match history and this came out. I didn't edit this, it's just what happens when I need to spew out my thoughts on the matter. Aatrox is one of my favourite champions and I hope riot takes good care of him.

ChromeBeast, out.

30 Comments

TheHappyReaperz5 votes

Aatrox is in the same boat as Kalista and Azir. When he was strong, he was unstoppable, so the only solution was to nerf him into oblivion.

ChromeBeast3 votes

I really don't know what to say. You're exactly right. But Azir and Kalista have learning curves and mechanics to master, Aatrox on the other hand is quite simple in comparison. The mechanics Azir and Kalista offer require some time and effort to fully comprehend, Aatrox is different, he does have mechanics to master but the learning curve is quite linear with him. This is why I think Aatrox could have been fixed easier than Azir and Kalista because he has less potential in terms of his learning curve.

Off Meta Evan3 votes

Kassadin is his best friend cause he can relate.

ChromeBeast1 votes

I agree, Kassadin was horrible gutted and left to rot on the sidelines. But the difference I see is in popularity. I see a kassadin pick every 2 or 3 months but I haven't seen an Aatrox pick in years! It's depressing isn't it? To one of the most revered assassins of season 1 and 2 to go down in history as weak? I mean he wasn't even part of the assassin rework, I wonder why riot made that decision.

Off Meta Evan1 votes

tbh i understand why they don't wanna touch him, kassadin is one of those champions that as a concept sounds fucking impossible to balance. (see Vladimir Mordekaiser Graves Ryze for examples, there will be a quiz.) a hyper mobile anti ap assassin that scales into late game... k so the class that already shit on mages is twice as good at doing so and the adc has no fucking chance of kiting him cause he's entire gimmick is being the most mobile champion in the game. unless you're like Lissandra Maokai you're just kinda fucked. He feels a lot like mundo where they're scared to touch him for fear of unleashing the unstoppable raw busted.

A Doorknob4 votes

They have difficulties balancing his kit so they just nerfed him until they know what to do with him.

ChromeBeast3 votes

I feel like they did the exact same thing to Valdimir, where on release he was strong, and then he bounced around from being gold like to garbage nearly every patch until they forgot about him. They then changed him in the mage update, but will such a thing happen to Aatrox?

FantasySniper1 votes

Vlad is still strong right now.

ChromeBeast3 votes

Yes, vlad is strong right now, after the mage update. But before the mage update he was bouncing around patch to patch from being downright useless (current stat of Aatrox) to nearly gold like. I was wondering if Aatrox could get the same love Vlad did during the mage update. Or do you think that's out of the question?

A Doorknob2 votes

{quoted}

I feel like they did the exact same thing to Valdimir, where on release he was strong, and then he bounced around from being gold like to garbage nearly every patch until they forgot about him. They then changed him in the mage update, but will such a thing happen to Aatrox?

From the rumors I hear, he may be getting some much loving during the Diver update. Although I do not know. The problem with Aatrox if i remember correctly is when he was played, he would inevitably become unkillable. His life reg + passive + his 2x attack speed steroid + his range, it was just too cancerous so he got nerfed hard.

ChromeBeast2 votes

Could you possibly link a post in which they speak about a diver update or possibly even an Aatrox change? I'd love to just know Riot hasn't forgotten about him!

That's the relation I made between Aatrox and Vlad, before the mage update, Vlad in some patches was un-killable, just like a fed Aatrox on release, but now Aatrox is gone with the wind due to the nerfs and Vlad is in a much better spot due to the mage rework. I expected Riot to buff him after the nerfs they gave him to push him slightly back in the right direction, and they did, it was just so insignificant it didn't matter.

A Doorknob2 votes

Rumors my friend means I have no evidence to back my statement. At this point is just word of mouth. We know diver update will happen, if it touches Aatrox, I can't tell you. It's assumed because he is considered to be a diver.

420 grams4 votes

There has been games where I've completely outplayed people all laning phase, got a few kills, and STILL lose fights in both 1 v 1 and team fights from just being weaker even with a whole item ahead.

ChromeBeast3 votes

That's exactly what erks me the most! You could outplay your opponent and still lose because he just doesn't have what it takes in terms of numbers and his kit.

Itsbeghdev1 votes

And this is an especially large problem because he's a Diver whose job is winning 1v1s and pseudo-1v1s in chaotic teamfights with survivability and single-target DPS, so if he can't do that he's nearly useless.

Ehlekar4 votes

If Mid-Season 7 the class update is Divers then we can look forwards to changes then. Until then you gotta chill in the dumpster with the rest of us Aatrox mains. Azir and Kalista mains can also be found here

FantasySniper3 votes

He's so fucking dead right now.

Oglaf3 votes

How is he with the new Courage of the Colossus keystone?

It might breathe new life into him; his jump briefly displaces his targets doesn't it?

ChromeBeast3 votes

Yes it does, and the shield helps, but the fervor keystone is still the best on Aatrox in my opinion because it synergises with the mechanic of him being auto attack dependent. That's why the Courage of the Colossus mastery is not as good as fervor in my opinion, let me know if there's some hidden mechanic to it that I don't know about, because as far as I can tell, fervor is the best.

Oglaf3 votes

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Yes it does, and the shield helps, but the fervor keystone is still the best on Aatrox in my opinion because it synergises with the mechanic of him being auto attack dependent. That's why the Courage of the Colossus mastery is not as good as fervor in my opinion, let me know if there's some hidden mechanic to it that I don't know about, because as far as I can tell, fervor is the best.

I wouldn't know, as I don't even own Aatrox. I just remembered that his jump could trigger it and thought I'd bring it up. You're probably right about Fervor being better.

Itsbeghdev1 votes

Imagine fervor might even be more clear of a choice on him now that it's AD instead of on-hit damage, and it therefore works with lifesteal.

Oglaf3 votes

A diver update might be the chemo to the ranged ADC top cancer.

Just might.

Nickfer25103 votes

I've tried Aatrox months ago. I really liked him, but I also lost almost every game I played as him. I tried going DPs, I tried going tank, but still lost. He is a champion with one of the coolest concepts in the entire game, so it's quite disheartening riot just doesn't care about him.

DunkinNoobs3 votes

He's not that bad. Take it from an 180k mastery Aatrox main. He's fine. Not good. But fine.

Abandon3 votes

I thank you for trying to bring up the issues of my main champion but, as many of us are aware it brings to fruit nothing. They have already planned a rework for him and the only thing we can do is wait until they show us what we have in store. We can only pray that they have heard the complaints we have with his kit and address them in his upcoming update.

I understand that Aatrox is not in a good spot and picking him into a meta champion is like putting a handicap against yourself but at the same time, I must say... there must be SOMETHING you've done wrong to have death ratios of the ones I saw when poking my nose in your match history (sorry :c). I know Aatrox is weak at present but honestly, if you truly understood what you were doing playing with him I am beyond a doubt sure, those games could have looked a lot 'cleaner' for lack of a better word. It resembles my period of learning with Aatrox when I first picked him up, feeding beyond measure but picking up clues on how to play him along the way. Hopefully in time, you'll find not only a build that works for you but also a way to succeed with the type of Aatrox you play. Good luck out there Chrome.

Wolfram Oxford2 votes

I believe they are giving him some buffs to his ultimate, extra range and a bunch of attack speed, so he will be kind of like Yi but with no movement speed bonus, but to make up for that he has the range of an ADC basically.

ChromeBeast3 votes

Could you like the post from which you got this information from?

Off Meta Evan2 votes

I actually think his E is a pretty meh ability, it doesn't do enough damage, have enough range, and give enough of your passive to actually justify using it over just autoing. His Q is a good move on paper, only two problems are how much hp it takes and that you can be moved in mid air, change those and its gud. His R and W i think just need some number changes and honestly i think they could also be good abilities, make the damage on W ACTUALLY good, make it scale really hard with AD to justify the hp drain and not just a level 1-6 cheese ability never to be touched once you start grouping. His R i think needs a higher range or a better indicator cause the animation is deceptive imo, (That last one could just be me being boosted af.) But other than some higher range and perhaps some boosted damage i think his R is fine. I remember when old rageblade existed and he was actually playable.... rip. item 3070

Calabok1 votes

I think he's fine and they should focus on other champs instead.

ChromeBeast3 votes

Though I do agree that other champs are also in urgent need of changing, I only bring this up due to my love for the champion. I feel as though even though there are older champs in need of change, Aatrox takes the cake in being the most broken. I mean I've seen 1 aatrox this year, and it was during his free week on Ascension. I see Urgot players, mordekaiser players and hell even some swain players here and there in my elo but I haven't seen a single Aatrox! That's why I think he should be near the top of the list

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