Why doesn't Banshee's Veil build out of Negatron Cloak?

Alturgist·Nov 11, 2017·2 votes·523 views

There's plenty of room in the cost of Banshee's Veil for the Null-Magic Mantle to upgrade into Negatron Cloak before completing the full item. Why is this item, which offers a large amount of Magic Resist, building out of only the most basic Magic Resist item? I feel like there's no good reason not to smooth the build path with a small upgrade to the Null-Magic Mantle in the course of building to the full Banshee's Veil.

5 Comments

Talon12Nov 11, 20171 votes

would make the item much too gold efficient, it can only be so cheap because you need to save for a while to buy it, if you make it build out of neg it would be much too easy of a build patch because every component would be easily accessible

AlturgistNov 11, 20171 votes

I'm not sure I see that as a problem.

Talon12Nov 13, 20171 votes

If the item becomes such a nice build path, people will build it whether or not they need the item because its stats are easy to access, its similar to some old items, where they were so easy to build (like 350 every single component) people could easily build it and gain a steady power flow, while others were left behind trying to get large gold leads to finish their items, it would be like a BF sword building out of 3 long swords +250 gold, it makes a powerful item much too easy to access, where its ap counterpart would still require 1250 gold to build, the adc counterpart can be built easily with every single back, making the item too oppressive.

AyoLiko420Nov 11, 20171 votes

Ap needs more items anyway they should add a man a regin magic resist item

Pokemonred200Nov 11, 20171 votes

It built out of negatron cloak in the past, and even continued to be built from it on PBE when it was reworked into a mage item.

Apparently, though, Riot thought it was too good to be able to sit on a negatron cloak when you were in lane, so they took it out of the recipe. (While Hexdrinker does this as well, it's also 480 gold more expensive and less gold-efficient without the shield).

Personally though? I never realized that was an issue, given when Abyssal Scepter was still an AP item and not a tank item, it had Banshee's current stats and build, but with Negatron instead of Null Magic. My guess is it made the item mandatory in AP vs AP matchups, so they felt taking the negatron cloak out would fix the problem.