PSA: When a 4-man botlane gank happens.....

Sabotage979·Feb 12, 2017·20 votes·1,672 views

If you are the jungler/midlaner and you know you can't (or don't) make it to botlane by the time the fight is pretty much over FOR THE LOVE OF GOD focus other objectives around the map. Do not just casually farm your own jungle or lane and then blame the botlaners for feeding. We all make mistakes, such as not following your laner from time to time, but take responsibility and create your own opportunities to win the game! :)

Likewise - If you are botlane and see nobody is coming to help - back off your tower and let the enemy team take it. There is no need to try to be a hero. 9.9 times out of 10 you will die (or you both will) and they will take your tower anyway...and then even dragon if they know what they are doing. If you back off and let them have it you give up a little less. Politely (emphasis on politely-do not tilt your teammates) encourage your team to be more aware around the map and take objectives!

As a jungler (though I play just about any role frequently), whenever I am botlane and I see my jungler still farming his own jungle instead of pushing a lane or taking the enemy jungle when a 4+ man gank is happening, a little bit of me dies inside.

Please do not make me die inside :( be a responsible teammate! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] Happy Hunting!

13 Comments

Asayake 5150glowFeb 12, 20173 votes

What other objectives?

Yeah, there's only towers in the top side, Rift Herald barely counts unless your top laner can 100% make use of it.

Also, backing off is rarely enough to get away. Flashing isn't either.

Tangy CitrusFeb 12, 20172 votes

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What other objectives?

/s

Yeah, there's only towers in the top side, Rift Herald barely counts unless your top laner can 100% make use of it.

Also, backing off is rarely enough to get away. Flashing isn't either.

You just have to be conscious of the fact that you will get tower dove in a 3/4 man situation and you just need to get away fast. Another option is champion dependent but you can ult the incoming wave so they are delayed and gives your team enough time to possibly race for ftb or even get there in time. In some cases doing so will completely turn around the gank and win the game for you, but too often i see people get greedy and hold their ults as a lucian or mf in order to get a kill out of it.

The Great DivideFeb 12, 20173 votes

We all make mistakes, such as not following your laner from time to time, but take responsibility and create your own opportunities to win the game! :)

It is actually more often than not a mistake to_** follow**_ your laner. If they have left the lane first, they have complete agency over their stroll to bot lane. You as the follower do not, because you don't know where your mid laner went. Very often they could be hiding in the bush just to kill you when you go bot. I agree with most of your post, just thought to disclaim that not following your laner is not always a mistake.

Sabotage979Feb 12, 20172 votes

Very true! It is often quite difficult to keep tabs on their position if you are the one following! Its especially harder redside as your walk to botlane is either more unsafe in pathing or useless since the safe route takes longer to travel. When I am mid and I know its too risky to follow I usually just push up the wave and try to take tower. There probably is a better option though that I just cant think of at the moment.

What I mainly wanted to get at was do not show up if the fight is already over or about to be. Too many times ive seen a jg go down as the fight was wrapping up with almost no chance to clean up any kills just to either "try to save tower" or "just wanting to help" but they end up only wasting time and an opportunity to damage control-even sometimes dying too in the process.

KoggyStyleFeb 13, 20171 votes

TwistedFate summoner 12 is a thing. bonus points if everyone on your team has teleport.

coreychichiFeb 13, 20171 votes

"I agree with most of your post, just thought to disclaim that not following your laner is not always a mistake."

You went from "more often" to "not always. I would also disagree if you roam with them you can often have the chance to turn an engage since they have to worry about you coming, if they see ur ass sitting mid they have no fear about diving. If you're afk farming while your enemy laner is roaming and making plays you're a detriment to your team and deserve the backlash.

The Great DivideFeb 14, 20171 votes

Yep, I as lux will definitely roam with my enemy zed. That's a good plan.

I'm not saying you should never roam. I'm saying that too often I've had bot lane griping when I was not in a position where I could follow my laner. At this point you ping and tell them to hug the turret. And yes, no one shoudld be afk farming, but pushing the lane is something that needs to happen. This is especially if they pushed it and roamed, you can't just let it hit your tower while you try and play Marco Polo with the assassin.

Sometimes you should roam. But it is not going to be every time where you mid laner can just up and follow their opponent. And you shouldn't expect them to do this every time. Sometimes you have to play it safe in the lane when a gank's coming.

KoggyStyleFeb 13, 20171 votes

you should have wards out....

The Great DivideFeb 14, 20171 votes

You can never have both sides of river warded 100% of the time. And even so, for mid lane, there's many ways for the laner to get around the Max 2 wards you place down.

CodyBear Feb 12, 20172 votes

Well said!

LordKentravyonFeb 12, 20171 votes

The one advantage that redside has IMO is its much more reasonable for botlane to abandone a tower and live Blue side notmall has jungle / mid rush down tri to that bush behind tower So even when you see them coming and want to immediatly retreat its too dangerous to because you will be intercepted before you reach inner turret (that lee / ahri will catch up)

KoggyStyleFeb 13, 20171 votes

im with that guy i saw last season, he takes teleport on adc for the nope factor.

YJRBqwXJcSFeb 13, 20171 votes

following lane is not always a good strategy

1: enemy laner can have an advantage in the match up 2: if you don't have vision and they know you don't the enemy laner and jungler can wait for you to take the bait of following laner 3: bot lane is just not worth losing farm and exp advantage (im talking about the bot lanes who are ALREADY losing lane 2v2 or are just flat out building awful.) 4: bot lane NOT following up when you actually do get there. 5: bot lane is intentionally losing the game by ignoring mia pings