I don't understand why everyone's complaining about Mundo buffs.

PiggyTheAstro··6 votes·1,391 views

Alrighty, Mundo used to be the 2nd least banned champion in plat+ games, and he was that for a reason. Honestly though, I used to be a Mundo main and before the announced buffs I barely saw anyone playing him, now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Mundo's kit is well designed, he's too stat checky, but countering him is stupidly easy.

Let's look at his kit first:

Passive: Alright, that's some nice regen, but sadly, this regen will only really help you in the laning phase, where he kinda sucks, I'll talk about that later.

Q: This used to be the only viable part of Mundo, thanks to its spammability, but the problem is, it doesn't pierce minions, stand behind one and you're just OK, nothing to worry about. His "CC" is really pathetic, he'll never be a true tank because he doesn't have any good (or a lot of) CC, a tristana or a Twitch has better CC than Mundo, I'm more likely to see an Ashe supp than a Mundo supp because of that.

W: The problem is obvious, this is a skill which requires Mundo to have items, but it is his only wave clear, so he'd have to stand amongst minions, draining his health in the first few minutes, late - game, well, it's good but it can't be good without regen items.

E: I don't understand why this is here, literally, I don't. I'd be glad if this got changed into something else, which is why I got disappointed after I looked in the patch notes, he needs a REWORK, a buff won't solve his problem!

R: This sounds amazing on paper, but in practice? The health regenerates over 12 seconds, which is enough time to apply GW, and if you don't, all this can be used for is sustain, Mundo can't chase well with it because he barely has any mobility, you might just walk away and return after 12 seconds. What's wrong with him being able to tower dive you with his ult on? He can't spam it every 5 seconds or something.

Conclusion/TL;DR:

Mundo's kit is boring and stat checky, he needs a rework, not a buff, but the fact that he was lifted from the dumpster isn't something people should be whining about.

4 Comments

Step Sis Lux2 votes

if one buffs makes him from useless champion to 53% (2/48) win rate, 4% (6/48) pick rate and 0.75% ban rate (11/48 on toplane) that means something is not ok And btw he is disgusting to play against now

PrometheS2 votes

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if one buffs makes him from useless champion to 53% (2/48) win rate, 4% (6/48) pick rate and 0.75% ban rate (11/48 on toplane) that means something is not ok And btw he is disgusting to play against now

There are plenty of champions with 53% winrates that don't get touched. Mundo's skill floor also isn't high so the bad Mundos don't really dra down the winrate. 0.75% ban rate is stupidly low and ban rate is often a very bad indicator that something is OP. Zed was banned a lot even when he was complete garbage. People aren't used to playing vs Mundo or adapting to him and that's a large part of the story. He spikes hard mid game and falls off as ADCs get their tank shred items and mids et Void + Liandry's etc. Mundo maybe SLIGHTLY too strong but he's hardly worth complaining about when he has so many weaknesses too and a large opportunity cost in the sense that he doesn't have a hue teamfight ultimate like Malphite or Kled.

Mundo is 4th in top winrates right now and there are champions which are objectively stronger in the hands of a good player who aren't far behind. Kled is 0.4% before Mundo and has been around that 52.5% range for a long time. I don't see many complaints about Kled. It's like people think certain champs should be significantly above average and others should just be shit forever. Mundo's not even as basic as he seems. His skill cap is in the upper quartile because there are a lot of tiny nuances and optimizations to him. There was even one Mundo in Challenger last year and he had a great winrate.

C9 Squeeky 2 votes

I consider Mundo a juggernaut more than a tank but I agree he is stat checky and needs a rework.

Asterfix1 votes

I never really understood what mundo was, a reverse tryndamere? His abilities need something that works off of him being at higher/full health with all the regen to achieve that goal. Something like - Full health mundo gets bonus AD that scales down 2% by every 1% health missing, putting it at 0 with 50% health - Make him that absolute focus champ since he only has a small spammable slow he should get the damage.

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