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With all the discussion about Jax I've seen recently, I'd like to chip in a bit

Crookodile·11/26/2018, 10:00:28 PM·5 votes·2,791 views

All information is pulled from OP.GG and from my observations (Which, admittedly, probably aren't that good)

Jax:

Champs he has a Positive winrate over: 36

Champs he has a Negative winrate over: 17

Champs he has a of Winrate above 52%: 20

Champs he has a of Winrate below 48%: 7

Highest winrate is vs Ryze at: 59.34%

Lowest winrate is vs Malzahar at 44.4%

if you look at these stats, it appears that he is very strong in the right hands, which he is, but if you look at his overall stats he has a:

10.22% pickrate and 49.44% winrate

so, let's look at his strengths (Most of this comes off of observations and my own knowledge of this champ)

>Strong dueling >Decent wave manipulation >Low skill floor >Healthy trades >Scales well >Can get tanky with little cost to his damage >Split AP and AD damage >Can dodge AAs

and his weakness >Get's hard countered by a fair amount of champions >Only Mobility requires a target >Can be blown up in teamfights >Reliant on AAs >Melee >If he jumps in he has no other escapes and a decent cool down UNTIL he gets cdr and levels into leap

What is Jax's main problem IMO? He is linear, all of it is point and click (Except e stun, but regardless) he needs a VGU, maybe Ezreal tier, maybe a little bigger. Some things I would look for is:

>Leap can jump to anywhere in vision(That way you still have to ward over walls), cool down maybe 15/14/13/12/11

>Directional E, one that you can move around but only blocks autos from that angle, that way he can still be an exellent duelist but can't block 2+ enemies from attacking him from different angles. think 9% coverage on one side

Of course I am not a game designer, and this would need tweaks if it were to be implemented, but that's not my job.

6 Comments

ez mental boom11/26/2018, 10:03:10 PM6 votes

Conq and ER should be nerfed, reverted, or removed

Jax should not be touched

Jax has been untouched---except QoL changes and compensation changes for the removal of runes---for actual years. Nobody other than Riven players has ever complained about him. The only thing anyone ever had to say about Jax before conq was "a reliable soloQ pick with the potential to solo carry"

#delete conq #bring back fervor #delete conq #bring back fervor #delete conq #bring back fervor

SwiftKitten8811/26/2018, 11:04:15 PM1 votes

this would be more believe able if u actaully used a reputable site instead of "op.gg"

no one cares about korea only diamond + data.

that only matters in korea.

and judung how thisd is an NA forum.. and no one is posting from a korean account that data is completely irrelevant

use sites like https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats

and then if u want to play "cherry picking" then at least u are aware they your ignoring 99.9% of the playerbase.

seriously.. go and read "How to Lie with Statistics"

the most obvious thing is "cherry picking data" or zooming in to like .01% and say "look at this massive spike on the graph"

when it really only changed 0.3%

op.gg ONLY used diamond plus data ONLY form "korea"

that is 100% irrelevant to the "overall state" of the game.

i could say that Akali is absolute trash with a 30.5% winrate if i narrow it down to games less than 25 min in russian silver aram games

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/ru/silver/short/aram/by-winrate-desc

and i have the statistics to prove it

but that donest mean jack shit, becuase its completly missing the point

sneakydoug11/26/2018, 11:45:34 PM1 votes

“What is Jax's main problem IMO? He is linear, all of it is point and click”

Literally every champion has point and click. You’re either pointing and clicking an enemy or pointing and clicking an area. And both of those become the same after you figure out your opponents movements.

And if you think all you need to do, to win your lane with jax top, or win a teamfight, is to rightclick your enemy and hit q or e, without any analysis whatsoever of positions, visions, yours and your opponent cooldowns, strengths (in other words, all those things you think about with every other champ) Then come play me in top lane and I’ll shred you every time.

SilentBomber11/27/2018, 2:41:43 PM1 votes

Actually they are gonna nerf Jax....

Nyarlathοtep11/27/2018, 2:40:28 PM

Can be blown up in teamfights Can be blown up in teamfights

???????? In which world. Unless he builds like a glass cannon , which he shouldnt. Both his e and r increase his survivability by a shit ton. You cant aa him (e), he takes reduced dmg from aoe (e) and his r gives him resistances. And late game his abilities are ridiculously low on cd.

If he jumps in he has no other escapes and a decent cool down UNTIL he gets cdr and levels into leap

Aka late game.