Nerf Shaco's Q

DaspinnyX2··2 votes·936 views

It is literally an instant invis flash, it is twitch's invis(which isn't instant) and flash all at the same time. Its stupid OP and makes him impossible to play against early game. He doesn't even need to farm cause he ganks so easily. if its an instant invis fine, leave that but take the ability to go over walls away. Its completely and totally unfair.

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Shadow Gilgamesh2 votes

If only there was an item that gave true sight to handle it, maybe an ELIXIR.

oh how I miss oracles elixir :,(

DaspinnyX22 votes

There is the upgraded Sweeping Lens but you cant even get it before level 9 and I cant possibly place enough wards in my jg to stop him from just basically camping on the other side of walls. This last shaco was 6/0/1 before I ever hit 9. He is impossible to play against pre 9. After that its a bit better but he can still get over walls and be gone before you can deploy it.

The Bearded Bard2 votes

Invade his jungle, kill him. Unless the fight is premeditated, Shaco can't duel for shit.

DaspinnyX21 votes

But he doesn't have to fight. You cant kill him because you can't catch him. He just Q's over a wall or whatever and then comes back seconds later with it back up.

FHMarshy1 votes

His strong early game is balanced out by his horrid late game.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

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But he doesn't have to fight. You cant kill him because you can't catch him. He just Q's over a wall or whatever and then comes back seconds later with it back up.

NOPE. It has an 11 second cooldown after the stealth is finished. So since he stealths for 3.5 seconds, it's nearly a 15 second cooldown at all ranks if he's just using it to get away. Not only that, but it costs 90 mana with one point in it (I dunno about other Shaco players, but I only put one point in Q then max out E>W) So early on, that's a pretty heavy mana cost.

Cenobite Azaziel1 votes

Focus him when he ganks. Deep ward.

Troy2426211 votes

If only there were a trinket that gave free vision ward after level nine, or perhaps a trinket that reveals and negates his boxes. Or at the very least, free wards early game to telegraph his extremely short range mobility.

Oh well. Since clearly none of that exists or will ever be made, I guess you'll have to rely on the fact that you can see his Q puff even if you don't have vision of him in the fog of war or bushes.

Aikki1 votes

I've never played Shaco but I think he's perfectly fine. Yes, I hate him but he's supposed to be obnoxiously annoying with little to no counterplay early game. When's the last time you saw a Shaco destroy people late game? Exactly. He falls off terribly, he's supposed to be like that.

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