Which Hydra Is Better On Garen?

Boosterino·1/28/2016, 1:05:38 AM·1 votes·2,329 views

Ravenous Or Titanic?

item 3074 Garen item 3748

19 Comments

EndlessSorcerer1/28/2016, 1:07:00 AM6 votes

I'd probably recommend Black Cleaver and Sterak's Gage over either of them.

FacerollKatarina1/28/2016, 1:07:59 AM4 votes

Titanic since it scales with health

SaltyKracka1/28/2016, 1:11:02 AM2 votes

Neither. He doesn't autoattack often enough for either to be terribly useful on him.

CMD Ruby Rose1/28/2016, 1:15:41 AM2 votes

Spinfinity Edge is better.

Blitzidious1/28/2016, 1:25:46 AM1 votes

Well, either would be decent for the downtime between spins, and would deal decent amounts of damage with Q plus their actives.. You mostly have to think about it build-wise. For Titanic, since Garen builds primarily consist of "Black Cleaver into full tank", it's the better choice, but Ravenous, in my opinion, is the better snowball pick, as it increases the damage you deal with E and Q, where Titanic only increases Q.

Also, I read below you're not a fan of BC, gotta say, you're missing out on a ton of Garens power. It gives him literally all the stats he wants. AD, HP, CD, %Armor shred, and a passive which makes him faster while spinning, and essentially increases his ability to chase.

Kyrrion1/28/2016, 1:37:48 AM1 votes

Titanic + Trinity + Deadman's Plate = Gigastrike Garen. Titanic active + Spellblade + Deadman's passive on a single Q.

Base AD at 18 is 134, with 75 bonus AD (25 from TF and 50 from Titanic). Total AD 209. Base Health at 18 is 2,049, with 1,200 in bonus health (250 from TF, 450 from Titanic, and 500 from Deadman's). Total Health 3,249. Base Armor at 18 with W stacked is 103, 158 with Deadman's. Can increase to 183 with scaling armor yellows or Ninja Tabi (or both to 208) Base Mres at 18 with W stacked is 83, can increase to 108 with scaling mres blues or Mercury Treads (or both to 133)

Q Damage - 209 * 1.4 (AD scaling) = 292 + 130 (base ability damage) = 422 total damage Trinity Force spellblade - 134 * 2 = 268 total damage Titanic Hydra active - 40 + 324 (10% max health) = 364 total damage Deadman's Plate passive - Up to 100 bonus damage

Total damage from Gigastrike Garen's Q = 1,154 (with a possibility of an additional 209 in total damage with a 20% crit chance off of Trinity Force, up to 1,363)

Haven't tried it yet, but it sounds hilarious if it works out well. Catching any squishy target at 3/4 health is pretty much a.... GAREN-TEED kill. Can still pick up Black Cleaver afterwards for more bulk and more punch.

The Rewritten1/28/2016, 4:11:20 AM1 votes

Neither.

EDIT: Goddamit everyone already said the same thing.

My typical items as Garen:
item 3047 item 3111

CORE

item 3071 item 3742 item 3053

Situational

item 3156 item 3046 item 3190 item 3083 item 3065 item 3031 item 3068 item 3143

Garen of Demacia7/13/2017, 9:16:44 AM1 votes

I know it's an old topic, but since Garen has been getting these new buffs on him, I started using item 3074 as a new trend on him and I gotta say, it works great. You would just need to build item 3077 then get item 3071 and finish it with the item 3074 . I personally find it useful in many sources for example,

  • 100% base health reg, that'll make him more sustainable which is great
  • Active while spin, that helps a lot for clearing waves and harassing more with your E (especially since he can reduce targets armor by 25% when the enemy has been struck by it for 4 hits)
  • Be able to push towers faster since you'll have both item 3071 & item 3074

This has been my usual core build since I've been using it.

Core: item 3071 item 3074 item 3742 item 3065 item 3053

Boots: item 3111 item 3047 item 3009

Situational: item 3083 item 3075 item 3143 item 3194 item 3156