Hey!
Currently, Irelia can cast the second part of her E even when she is hard CC. Being able to use your abilities while CC is inconsistent with the rest of the game and is counter intuitive.
As Irelia is currently overtuned, it would be interesting to look at this issue as a way to tone her down.
Cheers
Warlord Rhinark29 votesHuh.
Just yesterday, I saw a thread someone made where they said Zoe could recast her Q while stunned as well.
What's Riot's fetish with being able to recast abilities whilst being cced?
Fisher No Chains1 votesThat was my thread, and apparently it can be said for Irelia too.
I'm starting to think that it's a "feature" and not a bug lol
3TWarrior1 voteswho knows because I know you can't detonate abiilties like lux E and anivia Q while stunned
The DrBonjigollo18 votesWhile we're at it, can someone explain to me why Lux's ult still goes off even if she gets stunned?
D2T Undeeds12 votesCast time =/= channel
5050BS3 votesOthers get interrupted hers should too.
Slythion3 votescast time =/= channel
There aren't any other abilities with cast times that get canceled upon cc yet there are abilities with channels that do. There is a difference, I hope you see that
5050BS2 votes
Ult AND W Not a Channel still gets stopped if stunned
Its the STUPID Long animation but Lux does not even tho its also a long animation
Sewer Side1 votesLmao? She’s Unstoppable during her ult animation. Why does this shit get upvoted
Slythion3 votesI'm pretty confident 100% of this comment is straight false.
I'm completely confident that half of this comment is completely false, because as sewer said, her ult makes her unstoppable. So uh...why did you comment this? haha
Critmaster Garen4 votes[{quoted}](name=The DrBonjigollo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xycEGdW4,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-19T10:43:27.910+0000)
While we're at it, can someone explain to me why Lux's ult still goes off even if she gets stunned?
because its not a channeled ability. when the cast already started, the only way to interrupt it is to kill her.
The DrBonjigollo1 votesok fine but why does this happen** logically**? If I bash you in the head with a metal shield and you are literally seeing stars you shouldn't be able to keep doing what you're doing and if that doesn't cancel it it should at least make it go off prematurely.
Vekkna12 votesTFW you're Lux, the enemy team all sidestep your ult, and the enemy Volibear throws you into a position where your ult gets a double kill.
ZackTheWaffleMan5 votesIs that how her ult works? I Ithought it just stayed in the same place no matter what.
Vekkna1 votesThe visual doesn't stay in the same place, that's for sure. I can't find a video of what I'm talking about. But I remember a game on Twisted Treeline where I was in the bot mid bush and ulting up towards the Golems, and a Voli ran out of jungle and threw me to where my ult beam crossed through the wolf camp.
I ended up getting a double kill off that ult, but I assumed that was because Voli made the ult hit when it would have otherwise missed. Tbh, I was too busy panicking about the bear eating me to have my camera watching the jungle.
Slythion3 votesYa uh, that's not how Lux ult works
TheCodeisCupCake1 votesTFW you're Lux, the enemy team all sidestep your ult, and the enemy Volibear throws you into a position where your ult gets a double kill.
'I am Volibear, im helping, look I clicked Q' [slayer-jinx-wink]
KZ Engel1 votesthere's a difference between a channel and a cast time
cast times can't be interrupted
irelia w is treated as a cast time instead of a channel, because reasons
Leto GT14 votesMeanwhile anivia R is interrupted on full cooldown for every small cc that exist in the game.
SweedishGunner21 votesAnivia R is a channel.
Leto GT3 votesI know but you can move while "channeling", yet any displacement cc cancels it. I mean by that thresh E, mao Q or tundle pillar. It doesn't add up to me. :)
3TWarrior1 votesespecially when it's a toggle ability
swain, nidalee, jayce and how many others don't have such a problem XD
It Hertz When IP1 votesNid and Jayce change form. There's no mana cost, no duration... completely different system.
ahferroin71 votesDisplaces cancel every other channel in the game though. She's just an anomaly in that she can move while channeling (well, not as much anymore, activation of the predator rune is also a channel, and you can move during it, and displaces still cancel it).
FOR JUSTICE12 votes
Slythion4 votesthat was Tryndamere's thing though. They specifically made his ult an exception because it matched his theme and made him special. Now this interaction is being slapped on things that don't make sense and don't need it.
Pika Fox5 votesIts actually consistent. Champs with a multi proc ability that require multiple inputs to actually use consider the first cast the actual spell/ability and the 2nd doesnt get interrupted as its already been cast.
HeimerLmao7 votesI know about Zoe, but I'm pretty sure Lux and Gragas can't do it.
Flawless Fetus3 votesOr riven ultimate :^]
Pika Fox1 votesRiven ult has an effect on cast.
Automated Riven4 votesIf riven's ult works like Zoe q she could cast the second part while cc'ed.
Apocalypsic2 votesI fuckin wish I could though.
Dying to CC lock while furiously mashing the R button is heartbreaking.
Heart breaking, but fair.
Automated Riven1 votesWouldn't it be great if riven's q worked like Zoe's q?
Apocalypsic1 votesAyy lmao. That would be stupidly broken.
I honestly do get the reasoning on why Zoe's Q worked that way. She'd be legit gutter trash otherwise.
Automated Riven1 votesI don't think so. It would just mean she would have more counterplay. Which means she had to play better. But IMHO it would mostly be a wash. How often does she get cc'ed during q casts anyhow?
Also q flash qqR2 ctr6 through cc.
Apocalypsic2 votesRiot doesn't like us breaking CC remember?
:^)
LordGeovanni1 votesYet every other champion that gets blocked by cc isnt gutter trash. Mages are not supposed to be in a range to get hit by cc in the first place losing one q to cc when its a less than 4 second cooldown at level 5 isnt gutter trash
Apocalypsic1 votesIt does mean a lot more though when most of her damage output comes from a single ability.
Her other source is short range orbs and empowered auto's, which do put her in range to be easily CC'd.
I'm not saying I like the champion, but at least to me, it makes a modicum of sense.
LordGeovanni1 votesThe thing is She wont be trash for not ignoring cc like every other champion in the game. Zoe shouldnt have all that damage on one ability in the first place and if she does thats all the more reason to have it interupted by cc and Far longer cooldown than it is now. Mages are are only supposed to have high burst if they have long cooldowns riot has ignored that for all the mages but Zoe because its made by some one gets to ignore it harder than everyone else with half the cooldown.
Pika Fox1 votesDunno why gragas cant, but lux E applies an AoE slow on cast, so it makes sense she cant. Might be because theyre considered threat zones and will explode on their own.
Automated Riven5 votesAnivia cannot either. Zoe is an anomoli here. And technically irelia is simply stopping a channel. Not casting again.
Pika Fox2 votesAnivia's q detonates while stunned, you just cant detonate it early.
Automated Riven5 votesNo. If you get cc'ed as anivia it continues until the max range where it detonates.
Pika Fox2 votesThats what i said?
Automated Riven6 votesThat is not a reactivation. That's the ability completing the original cast. That is not the same as Zoe using her q a second time during cast.
Anivia works the same as every other delayed casted ability in the game barring Zoe who gets to reactivate while stunned and irelia who gets to stop casting while stunned.
Slythion4 votesGragas, Lux, Velkoz, and Thresh all can't recast (Q, E, Q, Q respectively)
Zoe is just a special (toxic) exception and I'm not sure if I should include irelia in there since she's just cancelling an ability rather than "recasting" it. Idk
Pika Fox2 votesGragas, lux, velks abilities all still function even when CCd. You cannot reactivate them early, but all 3 will detonate.
Same with thresh Q, it still does something when CCd, namely CC the enemy.
Irelia E and Zoe Q dont do anything without 2nd cast; irelia needs the 2nd to do anything at all, and zoe is heavily incentivized to not hit with Q1.
Automated Riven2 votesZoe's q does things. If it hits someone first cast it will do damage. Her second cast is simply to get more damage. If her coding was consistent she would be unable to recast while cc'ed.
Pika Fox1 votesZoe is incentivized not to hit with Q1, meaning it wont hit. Everyone else is incentivized to hit with their 1st cast.
Automated Riven4 votesLux needs to reactivate instantly to deal damage because people move off of it. If she is cc'ed she loses damage. Same with gragas. Anivia needs to reactivate at the correct time to deal double damage and stun. She loses damage and cc. Velkoz has to cast Q to miss and reactivate properly to hit people behind minions. He loses damage. Thresh can't gap close to his hook. Irelia still gets a metric ton of damage reduction if she can't second cast btw.
Every champion loses shit if they get cc'ed. It's why cc exists. Oh. Except Zoe who still gets to cast her spell
I mean the worst feeling in the game is playing anivia and casting R and the Q and getting cced right after. That is literally the biggest 'i am fucked' feeling ever.
