Is Zed too Strong?

ZsakbaMacska··1 votes·3,279 views
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So let me ask does Zed so strong that impossible to beat him?

Before I start let me tell you I am bias towards Zed, he is my favorite champion.

Many people complain that Zed so strong who can tower dive you at level 4.

First, if you get killed by Zed undertower at level 4, it means you are bad or you made many mistakes. It is just you stayed lane with 15%-25% hp and u didn't expected a w e q combo with ignite, and honestly every champion can do that with decent early game dmg, for example yasuo, fizz, lux, victor, anivia, syndra and many more champion.

Many people say he does too much dmg because of his kit, which is true, however dont forget most of zed early game dmg comes from his combo, if zed uses his combo and miss, which can happen, zed is very easy to punish since his w has over 15 second CD, during that time Zed is easy to gank and punish by the enemy.

Zed can be countered by items for example item 3157 and item 3140. therefore his late game is weaker.

Zed is very fun to play therefore many people like to play him, however in the link above you can see, you will win significantly more games with him if you put the time into learning and practicing him. It is not a typical meta pick that you just pick because he is op, and you start to play him like faker and Redmercy after 5 games.

I believe Zed strong earlygame makes up for his weaker late game.

i believe Zed is should be a high risk high reward champion therefore, I wouldn't mind some nerfs to the e , increase the energy cost for example, you only can use your second e during a combo if you land your full combo and you get energy refunded.

Please feel free to tell me your opinion about Zed and how Zed can be changed to be remain strong early yet balanced, but not useless as he was during season 5.

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ChargeItDownMid4 votes

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ZsakbaMacska1 votes

I agree with most of your points, but the team fighting part. It is really common to just chain cc Zed and he dies fast.

SwapShadows1 votes

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Zed's problem is that he has too much map pressure and is well above average at every point in the game. His early game is amazing, his midgame is amazing, his team fight is above average, his split push is amazing. On top of that, he scales far too well for a champion that can simply spam manaless spells to farm to win mid/lategame.

Zed has a terrible late game

Zed has the potential to have a terrible midgame if not ahead

His split pushing isn't amazing, ever since all the reworks to other champions he can easily lose 1v1s to a ton of champions

energy is one of the worst resources to have after early game

MXXXXXL3 votes

I think he's strong because of Thunderlords, item 3155 and maybe item 3147 .

Woook3r2 votes

Ppl say op when its just not fun to play against. Zed is unfun because he is such a huge threat and because his shadow can just lurk you forever. Thats the nerf i want to see. Shorter shadow duration.

Unfortunate Game1 votes

Zeds only strong against squishys, and its not even zed whos strong, its the items. All the current ad items are pretty much broken. item 3156 item 3139 And thats what makes him and other ad champs really strong right now.

Cloud2733 votes

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Zeds only strong against squishys, and its not even zed whos strong, its the items. All the current ad items are pretty much broken. item 3156 item 3139 And thats what makes him and other ad champs really strong right now.

Zed was broken long before those items got changed (AND before duskblade got added). I'm so happy he got played in LCS this year. Now Riot will finally open their eyes and nerf him.

Unfortunate Game1 votes

Everyone is broken to someone. Example, chogath vs zed. Chogath wins zed without a problem? The logic within what youre saying makes no sense. Zeds really strong, but not broken.

All the armour pen items and the good stats on ad items = whats broken, not zed.

SwapShadows1 votes

I don't take most people opinions seriously because they make almost impossible scenarios just to bait upvotes.

Some guy was convincing me he lost a 1v1 to a zed at level 6 as a malz while he got off a complete malz combo on zed after Zed used ult. That's literally impossible to lose since Zed loses every second of his ultimate.

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

Zed is objectively too strong right now, but I'd much rather Zed be strong than something like Talon or (for a champion that is even stronger than Zed is) Udyr.

So does he need nerfs? Yeah probably, either for him or his items, but he shouldn't need anything too severe.

Simpumba1 votes

Zed IMO isn't "op" Yes his laning phase is super strong, but if he loses, he's going to be useless, and in teamfights, it's hard to dive the adc unless your pretty fed. CC shuts down zed, and his lanegame is easily bad, because by then everyone has qss or hourglass. He's strong, but he also has weaknesses.

Keep in mind, most LoL players are bronze-silver. So a lot of people will just call a champion OP because they don't know how to deal with them.

As someone who played zed in s5, when he wasn't deemed op or popular, maybe fix his R range, what I mean is the fact he can tp a mile back with no range limit for his shadow, that imo is what makes everyone hate him so much, the fact he's a safe assasin. As talon has to 100-0 a squishy and probably die.

xl Kirito lx3 votes

IMO: You imply Zed has the ability to lose lane. He can safely farm most lanes, between use of his Q / Passive. And for how safe of a lane phase he has, he still scales incredibly well. Not in terms of teamfight potential, but his split potential is on par with tryndameres. Don't get me wrong, most of it is his itemization, and the itemization of Mages in general, but still worth noting. They don't seem intent on dealing with abhorrid itemization in a timely manner, so it might be up to balancing the champions around the items.

Simpumba2 votes

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IMO: You imply Zed has the ability to lose lane. He can safely farm most lanes, between use of his Q / Passive. And for how safe of a lane phase he has, he still scales incredibly well. Not in terms of teamfight potential, but his split potential is on par with tryndameres. Don't get me wrong, most of it is his itemization, and the itemization of Mages in general, but still worth noting. They don't seem intent on dealing with abhorrid itemization in a timely manner, so it might be up to balancing the champions around the items.

If you opponent isn't a brain dead lemur zed really isn't that hard to beat. I have 10 counters I play into him and always win lane.

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Unfortunate Game1 votes

Pretty much. The people in this chat are bronze-gold so they dont understand everyone has someone whos strong against them.

If you play katarina and the enemy has no cc or tank, katarina will seem "broken". Same with zed or yasuo, etc. Point is, everyone has someone theyre weak against, and just because youre (them) not aware of it, doesnt mean theyre strong/broken. Wake up people, thanks.

MysticDreams121 votes

I want him back to him being useless like in Season 5.

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