I'm so tired of this champion being played every single game and going legendary many times over every time. Why is it okay that he has no counter, no way to gank him, no drawbacks of any kind, and it's all fine.
sweJlliK6 votesThe ignorance in this thread is hilarious. Mostly Zed mains defending their ability to roll their face across the keyboard and get free wins.
Daddy Ants6 votesBut...
Zed is OP and Mage itemization is weak....
Says every mage / ap main.
: ^)
Mage players are the most delusional when it comes to the strength of their class and itemization.
1100 Gold COMPONENT vs 2900 gold completed item while eating the entire Zed combo and still walks out alive....
Oh and let's not forget Kassadin had recent nerfs to his armor.
Seekers Armguard is complete bullshit for it's cost and what it gives you.
Craft Zeppelin6 votesBut...
Zed is OP and Mage itemization is weak....
Says every mage / ap main.
: ^)
Mage players are the most delusional when it comes to the strength of their class and itemization.
1100 Gold COMPONENT vs 2900 gold completed item while eating the entire Zed combo and still walks out alive....
Oh and let's not forget Kassadin had recent nerfs to his armor.
Seekers Armguard is complete bullshit for it's cost and what it gives you.
And so is hexdrinkers lmao with null orb or edge of night or mercurial. HOW DARE YOU BUILD ARMOR AGAINST ASSASSINS????
Daddy Ants6 votes[{quoted}](name=Craft Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xijhsXys,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-03-06T16:23:24.748+0000)
And so is hexdrinkers lmao with null orb or edge of night or mercurial. HOW DARE YOU BUILD ARMOR AGAINST ASSASSINS????
So you're telling me that a Mage/AP Assassin should be able to spend 1100 gold, farm 30 cs and then be able to eat an entire Triple Q combo from a Zed who's ahead of him significantly and still survive?
No, I don't think so.
Stylish had a 2,900 gold item. 0/2 Kassadin had an 1100 gold COMPONENT and no other armor items.
That clip shows how bullshit overpowered Seeker's Armguard is.
Titanium705 votesWhy on earth do zed players think they deserve 100-0 at any point in the game even against armored targets???
TRADING! That's a thing you know!? He already had the dominatnt lane (Kassa is 0-2) he already had the lead and a single Q before doing the combo would have been enough to get the 95-0!
If he gets the more offensive DuskBlade over the more ultility oriented Yomuus he'd also get the kill!
See this clip and asking for Buffs once again is proof of how stupid this assassin QQ really is! You feed the meme...
Craft Zeppelin2 votesSo you're telling me that a Mage/AP Assassin should be able to spend 1100 gold, farm 30 cs and then be able to eat an entire Triple Q combo from a Zed who's ahead of him significantly and still survive?
No, I don't think so.
Stylish had a 2,900 gold item. 0/2 Kassadin had an 1100 gold COMPONENT and no other armor items.
That clip shows how bullshit overpowered Seeker's Armguard is.
If we don't we get oneshot by your stupid 1100g serrated dirk. Thats called game balance kek You think us mages buying a fking 2900g item with no mana, while you Zed mains use skills without resources was a fair game from its inception?
No it is not. You can play your cheap game, while we have other plans to screw that. That is the risk of playing Zed. You're playing a non-resource cheese champion of course the game won't allow you to go scot-free. Imagine if fucking Leblanc had no mana. Your champion is ridiculous from design.
The same goes to fricking Teemo on toplane who would lose lane automatically the entire game the instance the enemy buys cowl. Your champion simply has the same treatment.
SunDragonz2 votes[{quoted}](name=Craft Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xijhsXys,comment-id=00030000000000010002,timestamp=2019-03-07T02:46:18.060+0000)
If we don't we get oneshot by your stupid 1100g serrated dirk. Thats called game balance kek You think us mages buying a fking 2900g item with no mana, while you Zed mains use skills without resources was a fair game from its inception?
No it is not. You can play your cheap game, while we have other plans to screw that. That is the risk of playing Zed. You're playing a non-resource cheese champion of course the game won't allow you to go scot-free. Imagine if fucking Leblanc had no mana. Your champion is ridiculous from design.
The same goes to fricking Teemo on toplane who would lose lane automatically the entire game the instance the enemy buys cowl. Your champion simply has the same treatment.
LMAO energy is no resources? It needs to be managed just as much as Mana. And if you go oom easily with just buying seekers, you need to learn to manage your Mana correctly. An assassin should one shot an no armor mage and I do think seekers>serrated Dirk but seekers is better than an entire youmuus, something is wrong.
Craft Zeppelin1 votesLMAO energy is no resources? It needs to be managed just as much as Mana. And if you go oom easily with just buying seekers, you need to learn to manage your Mana correctly. An assassin should one shot an no armor mage and I do think seekers>serrated Dirk but seekers is better than an entire youmuus, something is wrong.
Lmao it means nothing if the energy bar is back up to 100% in a less than 10 seconds. And you talk about maths? Full assassin items have only 55 AD. Then the enemy buys armor to counteract your lethality.
Buys cheap-ass 2900g 55 AD item built for cheesing low level targets. Cries about it. Give me a break. You picked a high-risk high-return champion and item path. It backfired. GG
SunDragonz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Craft Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xijhsXys,comment-id=0003000000000001000200000000,timestamp=2019-03-07T05:03:44.534+0000)
Lmao it means nothing if the energy bar is back up to 100% in a less than 10 seconds. And you talk about maths? Full assassin items have only 55 AD. Then the enemy buys armor to counteract your lethality.
Buys cheap-ass 2900g 55 AD item built for cheesing low level targets. Cries about it. Give me a break. You picked a high-risk high-return champion and item path. It backfired. GG
10 energy per sec, Zed has 200 energy so that's 20 secs of him being able to do jack. My point is seekers is too efficient in which you get 45 armor and 35 AP for 1100 gold. It would be as if I bought triforce and couldn't kill someone who only had ninja tabis.
pickcollins1 votesYes bc you need 200 energy to do anything with Zed lmao
Ahri Baka3 votesBut...
Zed is OP and Mage itemization is weak....
Says every mage / ap main.
: ^)
Mage players are the most delusional when it comes to the strength of their class and itemization.
1100 Gold COMPONENT vs 2900 gold completed item while eating the entire Zed combo and still walks out alive....
Oh and let's not forget Kassadin had recent nerfs to his armor.
Seekers Armguard is complete bullshit for it's cost and what it gives you.
Are you telling us how Stupidity strong Zed is in this Video or the opposite?
Because from what it seems Kassadin bought Armor yet he still almost got 100-0ed by a Zed that only 1 Q hit normally and 1 passed by a Minion without even using Ignite lmao
I still think you're trolling us .. lol
HàrrowR2 votes[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xijhsXys,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2019-03-06T18:59:57.704+0000)
Are you telling us how Stupidity strong Zed is in this Video or the opposite?
Because from what it seems Kassadin bought Armor yet he still almost got 100-0ed by a Zed that only 1 Q hit normally and 1 passed by a Minion without even using Ignite lmao
I still think you're trolling us .. lol
Nevermind that you actually have to rush an item that wont give you any mana or enough damage while he just gets to build more and more damage cause hey if you all in him he kills you if you gank him he has a guaranteed escape or will at least kill one of you
Marian Cross1 votesYeah maybe before bitching that someone got armor you should just use your free damage sum that you took while also you built the utility damage item over the full damage item.
On a side note i do hate mage items and thing they are way too good, but still the clip means all but about nothing.
SunDragonz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xijhsXys,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2019-03-06T18:59:57.704+0000)
Are you telling us how Stupidity strong Zed is in this Video or the opposite?
Because from what it seems Kassadin bought Armor yet he still almost got 100-0ed by a Zed that only 1 Q hit normally and 1 passed by a Minion without even using Ignite lmao
I still think you're trolling us .. lol
I don't think you quite see the gold lead that Zed has on kass.. You shouldn't be able to buy one item worth 1100 gold then be able to last until Zed buys an item worth 2900 good.
Ahri Baka2 votesI don't think you quite see the gold lead that Zed has on kass.. You shouldn't be able to buy one item worth 1100 gold then be able to last until Zed buys an item worth 2900 good.
Who made that rule ? Don't forget Zed can 100-0 if you have no armor with only 1100 gold The fact itself that Zed almost 100-0 him was BS , you know that trading exists ? Even with the gold difference, Zed didn't hit everything well and in the first place he kind of dove him so he had no chance for a continuous fight If anything it was poorly played by Stylish for not even trying to trade .
SunDragonz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xijhsXys,comment-id=00030000000100010000,timestamp=2019-03-07T08:36:06.859+0000)
Who made that rule? Don't forget Zed can 100-0 if you have no armor with only 1100 gold The fact itself that Zed almost 100-0 him was BS, you know that trading exists ? Even with the gold difference, Zed didn't hit everything well and in the first place he kind of dove him so he had no chance for a continuous fight If anything it was poorly played by Stylish for not even trying to trade .
Of course, an assassin can 100-0 you if you have bought 0 armor, are you dumb. With the gold, you have after first back, if you have opted to buy Lost Chap. or Hex Rev., you are forgoing defenses against an assassin with an 1100 gold lethality item meant for players like you, who buy no armor, to kill. Also, Zed is an all in assassin, with his R and W both being tools to go into a fight as Zed cannot trade without giving up something. Stylish used R, 2 Qs and Es and an auto and still didn't kill him despite being 1800 gold ahead of a Kassadin who only bought seekers.
SomeOneButNoOne5 votesa) he didnt hit a full triple combo, shadow he ulted from missed the shuriken, if it hit, he would've been dead. b) shurikens went THROUGH targets first, that's why Kassadin lived. Only 1 shuriken hit for the full damage value. c) he had some hp regen through refillable & fleet
This would be the same comparison as to Syndra missing Q, but stunning with E, hitting W & then ulting, and the person surviving with only a Hexdrinker. Wich... they would.
Craft Zeppelin2 votesa) he didnt hit a full triple combo, shadow he ulted from missed the shuriken, if it hit, he would've been dead. b) shurikens went THROUGH targets first, that's why Kassadin lived. Only 1 shuriken hit for the full damage value. c) he had some hp regen through refillable & fleet
This would be the same comparison as to Syndra missing Q, but stunning with E, hitting W & then ulting, and the person surviving with only a Hexdrinker. Wich... they would.
You can call him "unstylish" from this clip lmao
kμrayami1 votesXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD u r delusional sir
Lazersnaw4 votesI usually see zed get really far behind if he cant 1v1 who hes facing. Other then that, he pretty much steamroles if he can hit you every time. Missing his q is bad.
JuiceBoxP4 votesHis most obvious counters:
There are other counters which involve champions with dashes to juke his abilities when ulting with the likes of 
and 
In terms of ganking... I wait for him to use his w which gives me a large window to gank. Without his w he is just another immobile squishy assassin
sweJlliK9 votesHis most obvious counters:
These do not counter him, they only delay your death. I'm not even sure what is doing in that list. But actually, SHOULD counter him, if Zed was designed properly to have less front-loaded damage.
JuiceBoxP2 votesI saved teammates with bard a handful of times by ulting them before zed managed to burst them down while stunning him when he comes out of my ult and basically denying him everything and killing him.
if you cast before his ult animation ends (somewhere around 0.5 seconds worth of animation) you don't get a mark and he is basically nullified.
Even if you don't click zhonya fast enough, zed usually won't stay around and wait for you to die, he will ult away and you will cast your zhonya before his mark kills you and you will not die.
I mean, how can you even argue that this item doesn't counter him? It's his #1 counter for ap midlaners that you play alot. (
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I mean you play an immobile long range mid laner. You can't juke his ult's damage but you can juke his normal abilities by side stepping.
Maybe you should play something more mobile if you can't deal with zed or just rush zhonya and learn how to use it
limebuster3 votesi haven't really seen much of him but i heard his winrate and pickrate went up a lot, he is very annoying so i'd have to agree with you here
Akali is SO HOT3 votes2019 and people still don't know that Seeker's exists lol
ZapMyHeart3 votes[{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xijhsXys,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-03-06T18:59:40.047+0000)
2019 and people still don't know that Seeker's exists lol
Hexdrinker also exists.
iDarkWind3 votesYes. Riot will definitely nerf a champion because you suck at this game.
rektumhole3 votesLOL malzahar f8cking destroys zed. E, R and Q him and he's fuc32d
BigChinLesbian2 votesYou could either ban him, or try playing against him. I am not sure on your role but if you are mid, take exhaust. Build an hourglass early and take the free stop watch. Every time I play mid into him I have to adjust my play style, and I still hate him, but I do not think he is "Broken."
Ahri Baka2 votesThey can't Stylish Literally stopped playing Zed yesterday and almost cried because of " how useless he thinks Zed is " If anything they'd even buff him more
pickIe rick2 votesno counter
no way to gank him
no drawbacks of any kind
just the daily silver complaint post, keep scrolling
ApathyAndGrief1 votesWow, people really did forget 
exists
Deliberate Inter1 votesZed is not currently viable at the competitive level and is at best a tier 3 champion. If anything he needs slight buffs, a good fix would be to give him a form of hard CC either on his passive, making his autos stun or when multiple abilities land.
Craft Zeppelin1 votes[{quoted}](name=Brony Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xijhsXys,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-03-06T22:00:00.515+0000)
Zed is not currently viable at the competitive level and is at best a tier 3 champion. If anything he needs slight buffs, a good fix would be to give him a form of hard CC either on his passive, making his autos stun or when multiple abilities land.
Nah, we should also make his Q's point and click. And his E to be a knockup. Also the ability to spawn clones on his W that are targetable. And him to be a ranged champion with hybrid values.
All at the same time of course.
Deliberate Inter1 votesUh, how about no? ;)
ModCaliCoastReplay1 voteshe has no counter
Actually, 
counters him very, very hard in lane during the early game. 
is still a melee champion who needs to come up to the wave to take the majority of his CS. That's 's cue to bang him very hard with Q and/or E, W through any shuriken hits or shadow damage, and then heal it all up with his passive while has no in-kit heals at all.
In general, is pretty bad against tanks and juggernauts generally, like most champions who are one-trick damage artists without any lane sustain. Take some toplaners generally against him the next time you go mid; 
all have the innate tankiness and close-up damage tools to survive and/or win trades, but really has the tools to stick it to ol' shadow butt, and if you get far enough ahead your team won't mind at all that you're on an off-meta tank instead of a mage or assassin.