These MASS 2 week bans are RIDICULOUS

stripedshirt··1 votes·853 views

Really? We can be banned now for picking a champion the rest of our team deems a "troll champ???"

We can be banned for being frustrated with a lane partner and leaving lane to roam??

We can be banned for calling someone else a "troll" when they're feeding????

No trash talking opponents?..

I know this game needed a major overhaul in some of the nonsense going on.. I can definitely see how this system will help. But come on.. some of these reasonings behind bans are ABSURD.

WookieCookie explaining why a player was banned "The behavior is similar to matches where you play support. I can see you like an aggressive playstyle, with champs like Braum you're no doubt eager to secure the kill for your ADC. But in some matches your ADC is hesitant, and in these cases you've gotten extremely upset. In the end, out right leaving the lane to roam, or just ending up at top lane despite the protests of other players on your team."

This will get you banned now? LOL!

It's a bit absurd that you're also just throwing down the ban hammer out of nowhere. I understand you're trying to play Daddy and show us that it's a banable offense to "select a champion despite pick order" (this is a rule now?? I must have missed that part of the tutorial.) There's no connection between what we may have done 2 months ago and how we behave now. And, often, players are mass reported despite performing well just because other people want someone to blame! UGH!

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TheMontrealBagel2 votes

Looks like someone's toxic and got punished for it... Lol

stripedshirt2 votes

Looks like someone's toxic and got punished for it... Lol

I won't deny it lol. Although, most of my toxic behavior was from a couple months ago. It seemed uncalled for that I was banned but what are you gonna do? Daddy Riot is trying to prove a point and they did.

Colgate Gator2 votes

As someone who often picks stuff like Mid Nautilus and such and have never gotten any warning. I don't believe anything you're saying.

You're making it sound worse than it is, as in your example, you're whinning that the guy got reported because the team didn't agree to what he did, what are the odds, this guy ignoring his whole team and deserting his lane partner, no doubt feeding in the process.

Legostrike2 votes

i've seen the comment by Wookie and it seems like he actually did fine, wasn't that toxic, and just got fed up enough with the ADC he went to help other lanes.

stripedshirt1 votes

i've seen the comment by Wookie and it seems like he actually did fine, wasn't that toxic, and just got fed up enough with the ADC he went to help other lanes.

Exactly.

stripedshirt1 votes

As someone who often picks stuff like Mid Nautilus and such and have never gotten any warning. I don't believe anything you're saying.

You're making it sound worse than it is, as in your example, you're whinning that the guy got reported because the team didn't agree to what he did, what are the odds, this guy ignoring his whole team and deserting his lane partner, no doubt feeding in the process.

It's not a matter of believing me. I showed a direct quote of why someone was banned. There are other quotes of "auto locking a champion" which caused the team to rage at him and also contributed to the player getting banned.

If you join a game as a Naut mid and enough players rage at you for your pick and you don't do well.. it will likely contribute to whether or not you could be banned.

Cale0171 votes

Leaving lane to roam might not be a bannable offense, even if it is a bit of a dick move, but if you're doing it just to spite someone who's already having a rough time? Yeah, that's just flat out toxic. Leaving your ADC to help out mid when they're getting ganked and your jungler can't get there fast enough, resulting in your ADC getting born down on, is one thing. Doing it just because you're ditching them is just wrong, and is essentially throwing the match by leaving your carry to be eaten alive and your lane half undefended. It gives a huge advantage to the opponents off of something which you intentionally did.

DoubleDammit2 votes

Leaving lane to roam might not be a bannable offense, even if it is a bit of a dick move, but if you're doing it just to spite someone who's already having a rough time? Yeah, that's just flat out toxic. Leaving your ADC to help out mid when they're getting ganked and your jungler can't get there fast enough, resulting in your ADC getting born down on, is one thing. Doing it just because you're ditching them is just wrong, and is essentially throwing the match by leaving your carry to be eaten alive and your lane half undefended. It gives a huge advantage to the opponents off of something which you intentionally did.

I actively try to avoid playing support in solo queue just because I hate getting paired up with bad adc's. You can usually tell pretty quickly if they are good or bad by how well they cs, take/give lane harassment and their overall behavior. I hold them to a higher standard being in Diamond and if they miss a lot of cs or die easily to a foreseen gank/bad playing and continue this behavior, or if they play extremely poorly/passively and don't communicate, more often then not I will leave lane because it's the healthier option out of afk'ing and raging. It should not be bannable by any means and the fact they will ban you for it means they are heavily enforcing the meta while enforcing poor playing. Corki dies, comes back to lane and immediately dies again? I'm not sticking around for that. If he wants to suck he can suck alone. I play league to have fun and to win, not to babysit a poor player.

Cale0172 votes

If you're with a bad adc, try and guide them. Remember that the title of your role is "support" and that it can translate to a lot more than just setting up kills. ADCs have the weakest early game, that's why they have a role specifically geared to help them survive it. If I'm with a meh ADC, I'll start weakening creeps so that they have easier last hits. I'll tell him to just focus on farming while I focus on zoning the enemies away from their own last hits, or poking them so they're scared to move up too far.

Stay with them and do everything you can until the first turret is lost. After that, the lane is done and you can roam wherever you please. But until your turret falls, it can still help you net kills if the enemy gets too cocky, and if nothing else can hold them at bay with smart plays on your part until allies can come down when they're trying to push for it, or are already going at it.

The offense here isn't that you left the lane. It's /why/ you left it that's toxic. You gave up on a lane that was still technically standing, one that could be saved if your mid or jungler came down to help even if your ADC was trash, and because of that gave your enemies a field advantage, a gold advantage, and reduced your team's defensive line by a third, and gave them an easy access point into your jungle. They can then proceed to gain full vision of that quarter of the jungle, which then puts your jungler in a rougher place. They'll fall behind in farm, possibly get killed trying to catch up, and when they have control of part of your jungle, your midlaner is no longer safe either. The enemy gains three more avenues to come in on your midlaner through that part of your jungle. That much pressure being put on mid and bottom will make your top have to leave their lane to try and save the other two and help out where there will inevitably be pushes at the weakpoints you have created, which leaves the top lane then open to be rotated to and the first or even second turret taken on a solid push.

Because you got too annoyed to stick with it, and forgot that your job is to support the entire team by holding the line as best you can, you weakened your entire team and gave up control on half of your side of the map.

THAT is the offense.

stripedshirt2 votes

If you're with a bad adc, try and guide them. Remember that the title of your role is "support" and that it can translate to a lot more than just setting up kills. ADCs have the weakest early game, that's why they have a role specifically geared to help them survive it. If I'm with a meh ADC, I'll start weakening creeps so that they have easier last hits. I'll tell him to just focus on farming while I focus on zoning the enemies away from their own last hits, or poking them so they're scared to move up too far.

Stay with them and do everything you can until the first turret is lost. After that, the lane is done and you can roam wherever you please. But until your turret falls, it can still help you net kills if the enemy gets too cocky, and if nothing else can hold them at bay with smart plays on your part until allies can come down when they're trying to push for it, or are already going at it.

The offense here isn't that you left the lane. It's /why/ you left it that's toxic. You gave up on a lane that was still technically standing, one that could be saved if your mid or jungler came down to help even if your ADC was trash, and because of that gave your enemies a field advantage, a gold advantage, and reduced your team's defensive line by a third, and gave them an easy access point into your jungle. They can then proceed to gain full vision of that quarter of the jungle, which then puts your jungler in a rougher place. They'll fall behind in farm, possibly get killed trying to catch up, and when they have control of part of your jungle, your midlaner is no longer safe either. The enemy gains three more avenues to come in on your midlaner through that part of your jungle. That much pressure being put on mid and bottom will make your top have to leave their lane to try and save the other two and help out where there will inevitably be pushes at the weakpoints you have created, which leaves the top lane then open to be rotated to and the first or even second turret taken on a solid push.

Because you got too annoyed to stick with it, and forgot that your job is to support the entire team by holding the line as best you can, you weakened your entire team and gave up control on half of your side of the map.

THAT is the offense.

How can you expect Riot to determine if whether or not you've left lane was to grief your team or in an attempt to win? Is it based off of how many of your teammates rage at you/report you for it at the end of the game? It's a bit of a ridiculous thing to have seen Riot staff claim was a major part of why someone was banned.

And, again, is it Riot's job here to reinforce the meta? Because a support doesn't want to babysit a bad player, telling him what items to buy, how to position, etc (which, by the way, usually makes players angry) and, instead, wants decides to roam the map that allows them to be potentially banned?

League of Legends is an action/strategy video game, not a psychological game. Yes, a good player will help his teammate succeed and boost their moral.. but it shouldn't be a requirement. If someone is playing horribly I should be able to say "hey bro you're not doing very well, I'm going to go help a lane that knows what they're doing" without facing a ban.

Cale0171 votes

You're getting the issue confused here. It's not that Riot was watching that match, saw you leave, and banned you. It's that your teammates saw you leave and reported you, which Riot then acted on. If you leave your lane but it turns out for the best? You aren't going to get reported. But when Riot sees a report, looks at the match, sees how badly the ADC was doing, and then sees that you've been reported for ditching the lane? They're going to take it for what it looks like:

You got pissy and ditched the lane.

No, it isn't their job to police the meta. But there's a difference between changing the meta and abandoning teammates that you just plain aren't seeing here.

So you go to help a lane, and then what? Is their support leaving the bot lane, or are you letting the guy who's already behind lose even more ground against two enemies that can then have their way with him? That's not changing the meta. And in all honesty if you're playing a support you really SHOULDN'T be roaming until your lane is won. Once again, leaving before the lane is either won or lost just means you voluntarily gave it up.

You're right, you decided. And that decision affected your team negatively, which warrants a report. Because maybe if you had stayed, you and the jungler could have worked something out. Maybe you and the mid could have. Maybe the lane could have been won, and you could have gotten the ADC caught up off of assists.

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

But you left. And your teammates had to deal with the repercussions of you leaving. Which means you ruined their experience due to your own anger at a situation.

That's toxicity. The ban was well warranted.

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