Right now titanic hydra seems to synergize too well with sated

Zone Laser·8/9/2015, 5:43:12 PM·1 votes·4,720 views

I've been thinking about how a specific group of devourer junglers would be affected by the new hydra. These are people with built in AS in thier kit as well as defensive tools. I am talking about jax, warwick, xin and too a lesser extent rengar.

Now let's look at what's wrong with titanic hydra. First it gives a very nice defensive stat 400 health. Note that it builds off of giant's belt so the pbe tool tip is out of wack. Compare it to warmog that is only 400 less. While that makes a difference it's well compensated by the dps increase. For example let's consider how the active is a auto attack reset. These champions are predicated on getting out on hit affects. AA resets are huge for burst because they have a small window to cc usually .75-1.5 secs. The active also has better range and late game scaling compared to normal hydra if the hp stat wasn't already a deal breaker. In some situation where you have a orianna it's quite superior considering you might proc the aoe passive 3-4 times. The last passive is basically a AD verison of wit's end passive late game and synergize with sated devourer plus AA reset.

Let look a hypothetical situation: Jax is the greatest beneficiary of this new item on the list. Let's say he builds bruiser Sated devourer Titanic hydra botrk Berserker greaves omen banshee

So at max level he has 3k hp and 200ish in resistances with ult that's reasonably tanky. Now let's say he does a E-Flash-Q-E combo on the enemy adc also max level. How much would we do in raw damage before resistances? Assuming you build passive buffs on the initiator beforehand.

So in that 1 second we have around 2 attacks, 2 additional attack from his W and hydra active. On hit affects will proc 6 times thanks to sated.

AA dmg= 800+ Ult passive= 440 Sated on hit= 360 Hydra passive= 300 Botrk passive= 900ish Hydra active= 300 botrk active=200 W+E+Q= 650+

Total= 3950 dmg (first second)

Titanic hydra contributes 875 dmg(50 AD on AA, AD ratio on abilities, on hit passive and active) + AA reset giving sated passive a second time giving a total of 2 more on hit procs then is seen on live. That is 860 dmg(AA, ult passive, botrk 2 procs). Overall about 43% of the dmg from that 1 item.

So now jax gets 2 do almost double the damage he usually does in the first second. In exchange for what 400 less hp. Xin and warwick don't do as much burst but they aren't that far behind either

6 Comments

Sakura Mirage8/9/2015, 5:49:18 PM1 votes

Honestly the item hasn't come out yet and you're making conclusions this early.

Qwandee8/9/2015, 5:49:41 PM1 votes

your math is way wrong. and it takes more skill to do this than you'd think alot more.

devourer only double procs onhits every 2nd hit. so you'd have to time it to burst with your w.

not to mention you'd have to find someone dumb enough to be a squishy and stand in flash range of u while your e was on...

plus jax is weak right now... he could use an item to get him back into the meta... he falls off incomparison to tanks even with his scaling he cant compete to a hulking tank atm....

and your math is just plain wrong all together. aa damage 800+ like yeah right on what planet? he'd have like 190 - 220 ad in there with 60 magic damage onhit how do u get 800 damage out of that in 2 aa's? maybe with the hydra active...

you know the hydra passive onhit doesnt effect the person initially being aa'd just people around them right? by your logic renektons w would hit 7 times ....

lolipopevelynn8/9/2015, 7:09:46 PM1 votes

Right now titanic hydra seems to synergize too well with sated

lol this fucking guy. didnt even need to read your post, downvoted purely because of title.