Shen Scaling Rework

BlueBuffandChill·Dec 31, 2014·4 votes·1,141 views

Shens scaling is really odd i dont play him anymore because renekton is my bae but I think he need his ability scaling changed

Passive: Keep the same scaling

Q: Can we change the 60% Ap ratio to 60% of bonus AD

W: I always thought his shield was really little how about changing the scaling to 25% of his bonus HP

E: change the scaling to this bonus AD and make it so when he taunts someone he gets 20%/30%/40%/50%/60% attack speed depending on the ability level so it gives some viabilty to buying some damage on shen

R: Lower the base shield amount to 200/400/600 and lower the CD 180/160/140 and change the scaling to 25% of bonus HP

11 Comments

AccountaBilabudyDec 31, 20141 votes

Shen is fine as is imo just revert his Taunt nerf so it has a larger hitbox, and reduce the energy costs when you whiff it.

KMannnnn1Dec 31, 20141 votes

I would say HP scaling on his shields are the only real changes he needs. His Q and E are more valuable for their utility than for their damage, and making damage more valuable for him would just make him feel like a more generic bruiser/fighter IMO. Plus, he's already a really strong duelist early on if you get an early triforce or bork and then build tank, giving him more dueling power isn't really necessary.

BlueBuffandChillDec 31, 20141 votes

well he is supossed to split push and ult in teamfights lol he needs the dueling power

mikemil223Dec 31, 20141 votes

yeah his energy cost is too high you cant even use all 3 skills consecutively. should be able to q, taunt, then shield the dmg instead of having to choose between q or w when you wanna combo with taunt

MeserionDec 31, 20141 votes

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yeah his energy cost is too high you cant even use all 3 skills consecutively. should be able to q, taunt, then shield the dmg instead of having to choose between q or w when you wanna combo with taunt

if you're smart you can use all 3 easily, his E provides energy regen if he hits an enemy so do W, E, Q, autos. this will give him enough energy and still allow you to double di with his passive and W.

skippersdDec 31, 20141 votes

First of all, bonus HP scaling is a big hell no. Just with a sunfire+randuin you'd get 950 bonus HP. His every 10 sec passive scales with 0.2 bonus HP for a reason. Second, his problem is that Q spamming has 0 skill, and if you can kill someone with it it's OP, if you can't then Shen does no damage. Shen needs some depth put into him, so for example, Q: half damage on all ranks, new passive: shen's autoattacks on hit deal the same damage as he heals for. (6-22+1,5% of shen's max hp). Or he deals 5-10% max hp magic damage if he ki strikes a taunted enemy with vorpal blade on them.

BlueBuffandChillDec 31, 20141 votes

a sunfire + randuins would give you a extra 237 hp on his ult shield lmao not 950

skippersdJan 1, 20151 votes

His W would give the same 237 extra shield. On a 5 second CD. Or even more fun, with 40% CDR, on a 3 second CD. That means that shen negates 152 Dps, since he has a nearly 500 health worth of shield for 3 seconds, every 3 seconds. Also, "you'd get 950 bonus HP" means that stuff that scales with bonus HP would scale from that.

In comparison, riven has a higher CD on her shield (6 sec), a tiny bit less base, for HALF! the duration, and the 100% bonus AD scale with your average 250-300 bonus ad . And as we all know, riven'n shield is stupid.

As for how potent the shield is, It's 220 HP every 5 second. That shield is a lvl5 guy's barrier. EVERY 5 SECOND.

That said, the problem is still the fact that since his kit is stupidly binary (except E), he cannot be strong.

MeserionDec 31, 20141 votes

DON'T TOUCH MY AP SHEN!

MeserionDec 31, 20141 votes

hes not a duelist, hes a tank, there roles are different. he suppose to taunt that op Master Yi so your team can shred him before Master Yi shreds your team.