No S grade because of surrender???

Kullprìt·Nov 21, 2016·2 votes·1,210 views

The Painbringer would like to know how having a 31-1 kda in a ranked game does not merit an S grade.

If it is because of enemy team surrendering that is incredibly poor grade system - they surrendered as we were nuking the nexus. I would really like some official explanation on the matter. I did everything right. My teammates were very cooperative and we had a strong hold on victory from lane phase right through to the end push. Everyone did a great job and worked together and I'm positive my role was very impactful on the success of the game.

19 Comments

Mecha MaIphiteNov 21, 20164 votes

You went support, while placing only 3 wards and destroying none. That probably hurt your score a lot.

Noxian PrideNov 21, 20162 votes

The rank system takes more into account than just K/D/A. It takes other things such as objectives, CS, and I think most importantly in your case, wards placed/destroyed into account (Including both Stealth and Control wards).

http://i.imgur.com/JE8q7tB.png

Mate, I know Morde is about as damage-heavy as a support gets, but...Come on. At least throw a sightstone in there somewhere.

KullprìtNov 21, 20161 votes

Forgot to add that my jungler commented and said he was given a grade of B. Also below what should have been rewarded he got 3 dragons and went 9/6/9. Does this mean that when the enemy team surrenders everyone on the winning team gets knocked down an entire grade?!? Please tell me this is not what you guys did.

Sona PingNov 21, 20161 votes

No. Surrender has nothing to do with it. Other than comparing you to shorter games.

Grades are determined by comparing your performance with the performance of other players on that champion, likely in that bracket of play. 6 deaths is in no way a good performance, not in spite of, but especially when his team is 14K ahead, and not something that is supposed to happen when he personally has as many kills as he did.

KullprìtNov 21, 20161 votes

You make solid points about the jungler. The actual gameplay shows he was doing everything he could for his team though, it's a shame the numbers betrayed him.

Sona PingNov 22, 20161 votes

What S grades are supposed to be is a rating that the game performance was above performance that is itself above the average game on that champion. Think of it as above and beyond X2.

"The actual gameplay shows he was doing everything he could for his team though" You are supposed to that every game because you want to win. You don't get brownie points for doing what you are supposed In terms of getting S, dying every 4 minutes is not really acceptable, especially in games where you get that many kills that fast which make it easier to not die.

It is a shame the support scoring being dependant on warding as a sole support contribution is so narrow-sighted

Because it isn't. Ratings are dependent on multiple areas and, like every other test or evaluation, significant deficits bring the overall score down significantly. A car would get a poor rating if it had faulty wiring, regardless of how comfy the seats are.

bad arcade kittyNov 21, 20161 votes

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No. Surrender has nothing to do with it. Other than comparing you to shorter games.

Grades are determined by comparing your performance with the performance of other players on that champion, likely in that bracket of play. 6 deaths is in no way a good performance, not in spite of, but especially when his team is 14K ahead, and not something that is supposed to happen when he is personally has as many kills as he did.

i got s with 6-7 deaths, so

Sona PingNov 22, 20161 votes

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i got s with 6-7 deaths, so

So... was it with Nocturne in a stomp that ended in a forfeit at 24 minutes in your favor?

bad arcade kittyNov 22, 20161 votes

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So... was it with Nocturne in a stomp that ended in a forfeit at 24 minutes in your favor?

no, it was with shyvana and with kindred

KullprìtNov 23, 20161 votes

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So... was it with Nocturne in a stomp that ended in a forfeit at 24 minutes in your favor?

So now forfeit does have something to do with it? It seems highly likely that you have no idea what you are talking about and just want to act like you do now since you are contradicting earlier statements. I asked for a official explanation for a reason.

KullprìtNov 27, 20161 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2357563852/56988911?tab=overview

Rank S with 5 deaths and only 11 wards placed (also a low number for support). They didn't surrender. I think I've made my point.

Sona PingNov 28, 20161 votes

That you are very insecure about this? Even going so far as to find comparison with a different champion that makes any point you're attempting irrelevant?

Yes, you have made your point.

KullprìtNov 30, 20161 votes

I apologize if putting proof in my thread offends you, how very insecure YOU must be.

Kirius DarkNov 21, 20161 votes

I dont think dragon/baron kills counts towards the jungler scores. I've had many games where Im like 10-1-15 with 4 dragons + baron and 150 CS @30 mins to just get A+ because apparently my champ damage was "low". Cant rack up the champ damage when they're many lowers level w less HP pool to do damage

KullprìtNov 21, 20161 votes

It is a shame the support scoring being dependant on warding as a sole support contribution is so narrow-sighted (there's your pun of the day btw)...I chose the non warding support item and switched to cleanser trinket. If anyone watched the replay they would see me using the active of face of the mountain provided far more support than any wards did. Vision was not an issue this game. Maybe they will widen the scope a bit in the future. I made all the right choices. I'm a support main and being a good support means adapting to what is needed

BeatzBoyFTWNov 28, 20161 votes

Vision was not an issue this game.

Always the No. 1 reason why people are still stuck in Bronze & Silver.

bad arcade kittyNov 21, 20161 votes

likely it's low farm

Dynamiku EntryNov 21, 20161 votes

Your issue is giving one single fuck about Riot's rating and grade system. How should you care what RIOT thinks about how YOU played? Fuck Riot and every cakefart jabroni that drag their ball-less sacks into that Suite.

bad arcade kittyNov 30, 20161 votes

surrender often helps you to get s (doesn't even matter which team surrenders) because the shorter the game the easier to keep a good kda and farm per minute