I really don't see why it's needed. If people don't want to play anymore, they should just quit the game instead of forcing a guaranteed loss on the entire team. At least remove it from ranked. Chances are if the team votes no that they'll just afk at the fountain and spam /ff anyway. It's completely useless and is the most trollable thing in the game until they added bard.
Fredart5 votesTypical liberal poll, either a complete agree or a somewhat agree answer instead of having a poll option for disagree.
Zane Zephyr5 votesThat's why it requires at least 4 votes for it to go through. 4 people voting yes isn't "forcing" anything. If 4 people are voting yes then obviously they're in some form of agreement that the match is over and doesn't need to continue.
JhomasTefferson2 votesNot true.
Sometimes your team is retarded, and someone started vote to be funny cuz the enemy took 2 towers with one push., and then two people vote yes, and then one troll does even though the game is completely winnable and you;re up by 3 kills and 1 tower still.
Also, sometimes your team is retarded and surrenders just because the enemy won a team fight and took an inhib even though your team is still ahead.
Zane Zephyr1 votesThe first one is entirely situational
And the second one, like I said, it's still a MAJORITY vote. That means at least 4 people simultaneously came to the conclusion that they don't want to play anymore and to end the game.
Winnable or not is debatable and you'll never know, but that still doesn't change the fact that the majority of the team didn't feel like playing it out that particular time so they voted in favor of that.
John Q Public1 votesEvery game is winnable. There is never a situation where surrendering is a good idea. ever.
ModAttysu The Poro3 votesI am inclined to agree with you. Take my upvote.
Budupops2 votesactually this is pretty good logic.
Sukishoo2 votesNo.
redniwediS2 votesIf people don't want to play anymore, they should just quit the game instead of forcing a guaranteed loss on the entire team.
At most it forces a loss upon a single person, since it is a majority vote.
WinBoat2 votesIf they quit the game, then no brains like you will report them for afk, and leaving.
I would gladly leave every game if it was going super bad if I could BUT nooooooooooooo i'd get reported if I do that.
So for those who want to FF, sadly they gotta waste their life playing another maybe 20 minutes for a lost cause cause typically if you're down by lots, you will lose more often than you can make a comeback and win. Funny, the last 3 games or so I played on Riven we were down almost by 10k gold, and came back to win... Just cause we were able to get the baron. The baron buff is such a big game changer, we were able to get it a 2nd time too.
So if you're able to get the baron, there is a chance to make a comeback.
Anyhow, off topic, sorry, keep the surrender vote, unless riot changes policies to let you quit without punishment, but that could be so annoying cause you can expect many people to just quit every match.
John Q Public1 votesIf you decide u don't want to play anymore, that's your problem, but don't drag along everyone else just because you suddenly decide you can't commit to playing the game any longer. If you decide to surrender, I really don't see how the game can be extended another TWENTY minutes. Did you not attempt to forfeit because defeat was imminent? This is literally the only argument I see and it is weaker than your bronze elo vayne plays.
If you can't commit the time, take the ban and plan better. You could always feed, and help the enemy team. There's currently no real way I know of that riot can penalize griefers. In any scenario, though, if you're a quitter, you deserve to be banned.
JhomasTefferson2 votesI agree
A stronger argument is this,
You can play a perfect game, do everything right, and your teammates can still surrender at 20 without you, and you will still lose lp.
Blade of Justic1 votesOnly if the surrender timer can get reduced to 10 minutes instead of 20 minutes for normals.
FacerollKatarina1 votesThen we get the idiots farming kills for 30 minutes longer and not ending the game and you're stuck their wasting your time for a game that was over 20 minutes ago
Zane Zephyr2 votesI would say 15 and make it so that the only way it goes through is a unanimous 5 man vote, then after 20 it's the usual 4
John Q Public1 votesif they farm for 30 minutes after being able to win 20 minutes ago, everyone should have a 6 item build unless your entire team somehow managed to push back minion waves without last hitting a single one of them.
ShaftyMegee1 votesWhat kind of poll is that?
You state a weak argument and the set up a dumb poll. At least I was entertained
John Q Public1 votesweak is a relative term. compared to any arguments for keeping a surrender vote, the argument is actually strong.
ShaftyMegee1 votesWhich... argument though...? 4 out of 5 people voting yes is almost unanimous.
Your argument on your op is to just leave the game, which is breaking their code of conduct that we all hit agree to every patch.
John Q Public1 votesI realize the majority of league players are quitters and would rather go feed/afk/type essays at the fountain in a new game ASAP, but I as weak as you may feel the argument for removing the surrender vote may be, any argument for keeping it is weaker. I see literally no reason for a surrender vote to be in the game. If you're losing that badly that you want to give up, 5 more minutes of the team pushing down mid lane won't kill you. I don't understand why leaving the game/afk'ing is against the rules but the game basically gives you the option to force everyone to quit the game. Even if one team surrenders unanimously, that's 5 other people on the other team who may have wanted to play a little bit more of the game they were winning anyway. Instead they get booted without any choice. If you're going to have a trolly mechanic like a surrender vote, at least give the other team a chance to vote on whether they accept your surrender or give no quarter.
If anyone has a convincing argument for having a surrender vote mechanic in the game, I'm all ears.
