Who deserves a nerf? Let's hear what you think.

HideInGranny·Aug 27, 2015·8 votes·2,235 views

Who deserves a nerf? Or are you just going to skip this discussion you animal?

48 Comments

Ch1efBeefQueefAug 27, 20158 votes

I think the balance team needs a nerf, their changes are op af. And by op i mean absolutely ridiculous.

4ManVotedAgainstAug 27, 20154 votes

item 3718 item 3710 item 3722 item 3726 Probably also item 3165 ...AHEM... I mean... probably also... http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140716213938/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/a/a3/Morello.jpg/245px-Morello.jpg

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20151 votes

Maybe not the Hunters weapons, but I do agree on the book.

Deep Terror NamiAug 27, 20154 votes

Every champion that ever beat my Nami, because they are clearly overpowered.

KingopantsAug 27, 20154 votes

The Riot Balance team

Seriously?

True damage is candy and apparently it's always Halloween for them.
Big LCS plays being a big focus of the balance team (weather or not they admit it)
Everything needs a passive , sometimes many
No cares given for Toxic champs
Feast or Famine with everything
Broken on Release champions as of late

If I was being a bit more serious I would say Vayne Mostly because she is popular and it might help break the deer in headlights thing that happens to Riot when a champion is both popular and toxic making it so they never get nerfed.

TacoTheKittenAug 27, 20152 votes

Vayne is only extremely strong because all of the adc lane bullies are weak right now... she can safely farm and scale into lategame

LatetotheRaceAug 27, 20153 votes

I believe that true damage needs to be looked at and reevaluated. Whats the point of a tank if one champion can completely destroy them.

AtheosisXAug 27, 20152 votes

It needs to stop being handed out so freely mainly. Riot has been putting true damage on way too many kits lately.

IcyPepperAug 27, 20151 votes

%hp true damage, in particular.

[Flat] True damage by itself hurts squishies more (because tanks tend to build health), while %hp magic/physical damage... also hurts squishies more, depending if the tank counterbuilt. Tanks are more likely to itemize defensively, [be it MR, armor, or health].

Critmaster GarenAug 27, 20152 votes

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%hp true damage, in particular.

True damage by itself hurts squishies more, while %hp magic/physical damage... also hurts squishies more, depending if the tank counterbuilt. Tanks are more likely to itemize defensively.

how does true damage hurt squishies more? that doesnt even make sense. squishies dont build any resistances.

do you even know what true damage is?

IcyPepperAug 27, 20151 votes

Yes, it's damage that ignores defenses.

I should have brought up health. Building health counters flat true damage, which squishies aren't as likely to buy, although there are some like item 3116 item 3071

Tanks tend to build health, and that's what I was referring to when I said true damage (not %hp true damage) hurts squishies more. Does that make more sense now?

Critmaster GarenAug 27, 20151 votes

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Yes, it's damage that ignores defenses.

I should have brought up health. Building health counters flat true damage, which squishies aren't as likely to buy, although there are some like

Tanks tend to build health, and that's what I was referring to when I said true damage (not %hp true damage) hurts squishies more. Does that make more sense now?

true damage built into champions kits is usually also not that high to compensate for the fact that its true damage.

compare darius ult damage to the ult of a mage for example. it will deal 800 damage to 900 damage at best. while a veigar ult can hit you for for a good 1500 damage.

the difference is, that its going to hit a tank whos stacking large amounts of mr for less, than a darius ult would. while a squishy might easily lose 2/3 of his health from veigar and about half from darius ult.

ReshiKillimAug 27, 20153 votes

Yasuo. Because 90% Armor pen after ulting when he has LW is balanced.

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20153 votes

He can be countered with DoT and any type of stun/blind

ReshiKillimAug 27, 20152 votes

Blind doesn't work on his Q, which is the main reason people with blinds have difficulties with him.

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20153 votes

Then pick a ranged unit or a burst damage stuner, I countered Yasuo quite well as Teemo and Riven

360D3GR3SSAug 27, 20151 votes

that is not how the armor pen is calculated.

Critmaster GarenAug 27, 20155 votes

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Yasuo. Because 90% Armor pen after ulting when he has LW is balanced.

its not additive. it stacks multiplicative. meaning it should be somewhere around 60% total with a last whisper. thats why you rarely see a yasuo ever buy one until very late.

also, its bonus armor pen. meaning it only penetrates 50% armor from items, runes and masteries, not base armor.

yasuo kindof got an indirect nerf with the randuins change. since a lot of his damage comes from critical strikes. ninja tabi, randuins and another minus 10% damage from the defensive tree help a lot.

Synx7Aug 27, 20153 votes

Riven

Banchunba 01Aug 27, 20153 votes

riven......just riven......

68636949_DELAug 27, 20152 votes

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360D3GR3SSAug 27, 20153 votes

truth, you forgot Riven

68636949_DELAug 27, 20152 votes

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foinhasAug 27, 20153 votes

You must be a very bad riven player if you're having problems with all those top champs

redniwediSAug 27, 20152 votes

Honestly I'm not too unhappy with my experiences against most champions. I guess if I had to pick a champ it would be Morde, as he is a bit too oppressive once he gets going.

If I didn't have to pick a champion, however, I would pick the mastery Dangerous Game. Seriously, screw that thing.

Rico NastyAug 27, 20152 votes

Annie As a champion she's fine, I think it'd just be nice to add a little counterplay to her ult and Q. XinZhao Idk if he needs straight-up nerfs but they need to do something about him, he is pretty damn annoying and makes the game un-enjoyable. Vayne Self-explanatory Yasuo I just think his passive needs a few number changes, double crit and a shield? Like, really?

DogIsGodAug 27, 20152 votes

Annie Vayne Riven

Chespin2013Aug 28, 20152 votes

Devourer as much as I like it, it is way to overpowered in its current state junglers like kayle and xin zhao are monsters now with this item. I like the farming style of jungling but this item is simply too strong. I personally don't know what I would nerf about it maybe make the on hit effect proc on every 3rd auto but I have no idea really its simply just too strong even for a lategame style item.

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20151 votes

UH, well,I cant find a legitimate OP character, because everyone I thought about can be countered in an easy way.

Cowgirl EdAug 27, 20151 votes

my charisma does

HideInGrannyAug 27, 20151 votes

I'll leave a champion that can possibly be nerfed. I feel like Fiora should definitely be reworked/ nerfed. Especially the fact that my team all silvers lost to a bronze 3 playing Fiora.

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20151 votes

Can be killed by stun and burst damage or DoT, and if your team chose the wrong champions to counter her, than that is expected

AtheosisXAug 27, 20152 votes

Most champions die to those things...

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20151 votes

Unless you are a tank with MR

AtheosisXAug 27, 20151 votes

Skarner and Garen most definitely do. Morde probably needs one to his duo laning, while his solo laning needs a huge buff. Oh and Fiora needs a sound beating with the nerf bat as well. Riot's on a roll with their reworks lately...

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20151 votes

Hmm, not sure about Garen yet, but maybe Skarner. Haven't played verses Skarner much, but he did dominate agains all the champs on our side. I am not sure if that was due to being OP or being a perfect counter.

Hayaishi2Aug 27, 20151 votes

Diana.

ArticFeverAug 27, 20151 votes

Nerf garen jugernauts should not be able to out run a shyvana with bork exust chilling smight and an akali who is literaly jumping minion wave to try and catch up.

Maximum ZileanAug 27, 20151 votes

Riven, I know she is easy to shut down in lane if your the least bit smart. But maybe something to make mistakes a little more forgiving. You know instead of "Riven gets 1 kill and GG"

I'm fine with her having an insane late game. I just feel she reaches it a bit to easily due to her huge power spike at 6, which if she were to get nerfed, that power spike may be the exact spot to hit.

Av3nger77Aug 27, 20151 votes

The reason I am replying is because of my discussion here. To those who keep complaining about EVERY champion being OP

ThisFrustratesAug 27, 20151 votes

FOR THE RECORD: saying a stun followed by burst dmg counters a champion is like saying cows like grass. NO SHIT. Hard cc followed by a huge burst of dmg literally counters every champion in LoL (except DrMundo and those undying f&$^ers). So please, give us real counters. For example, Nasus is easily kited and is also wrecked by anything that does percent health dmg.

BlancmarkAug 27, 20151 votes

Life deserves a nerf. It's OP. It kills everybody eventually, and there is no counterplay. =<

AlphaKappaPikaAug 27, 20151 votes

i want annie to get just a teeny tiny bit of counterplay on her ult, just enough to flash it? is that too much to ask!?? im not asking to be able to yasuo e out of it, but plz for the love of god let me flash it, annie with stun and flash late game has 0 counterplay, unless you stay outside of 1,000 fking units, #whadaboutthemelees