Can Every Stop Saying Autism?

HideInGranny·Oct 17, 2015·90 votes·6,150 views

So when did Autism all the sudden become an insult for bad play. What the fuck people? Excuse my language but this is idiotic how you're using a disability to describe someone in a game. Just stop. I grew up with a slight form of Autism and it isn't funny to hear people call each other Autistic and the game Autistic. You are all insulting people who have social disability and turning into your little game fetish insult. I feel like this should be more bannable than just cussing because this is just unacceptable. This not only bugs me but it makes me want to show all of the idiots who are using "Autism" as a bad gameplay and idiotic term to shut up. JUST STOP.

Look guys, this post isn't a place for hate and rudeness, so please stop.

104 Comments

bobwillneverdieOct 17, 201524 votes

As someone with Autism, I don't care. This is just people looking for something to be mad about. Also, calling it a learning "disability" is more insulting that seeing people call others Autistic. It has done nothing but help me in life.

However, I see how some people could get upset, and theres really no reason to say it in a game.

Champion SkinOct 18, 20151 votes

Well honestly as far as I see it... it has nothing to do with autism at all and is simply used as an insult like gay, retard, idiot (or something like that)

and yeah autism isn't a learning disability as far as I know high functioning autism or Asperger Syndrom... generally are rather intelligent when it comes to things like math However they are also usually don't have very high social intelligence... which basically means they aren't good with social norms and such social things other people might consider obvious Though there isn't really anything preventing autistic people from learning how to be social and stuff... well not as far as I know That is people with mild/high functioning autism....

Noam BraumskyOct 18, 20152 votes

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Well honestly as far as I see it... it has nothing to do with autism at all and is simply used as an insult like gay, retard, idiot (or something like that)

and yeah autism isn't a learning disability as far as I know high functioning autism or Asperger Syndrom... generally are rather intelligent when it comes to things like math However they are also usually don't have very high social intelligence... which basically means they aren't good with social norms and such social things other people might consider obvious Though there isn't really anything preventing autistic people from learning how to be social and stuff... well not as far as I know That is people with mild/high functioning autism....

"gay" and "retard" are actual terms used to describe people's sexual preference and mental disabilities, respectively. They are in no way in the same league as "idiot" when it comes to insults.

Spizzle9000Oct 18, 20152 votes

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As someone with Autism, I don't care. This is just people looking for something to be mad about. Also, calling it a learning "disability" is more insulting that seeing people call others Autistic. It has done nothing but help me in life.

However, I see how some people could get upset, and theres really no reason to say it in a game.

I personally do not have Autism, but I really don't think it should be used as an insult as it has very little to do with one's ability to play videogames.

Furthermore, many autistic people are also geniuses. I agree with the learning "disability" bit as it's more of a different wiring of the brain that affects social stuff more, but it's not a huge deal. Like, I know this one kid who is 4 years ahead in math, a musical genius, has pitch perfect hearing, and has slight Autism.

It's not a huge deal to have, although it shouldn't really be an insult.

Immortal FenixOct 18, 20153 votes

It's kind of like hearing 'gay' being used as an insult, I think, but people haven't built up as much of a resistance to hearing it yet. "Oh, that's gay." "That's a gay rework." "Fucking gaaaaaaaaaaaaay." So on and so forth. Sure, to some it's offensive, but to most people they just shrug it off as accepted speech. Honestly, that's all I think we can do in this situation. Slur and slang will change with time, and there's nothing we can really do to change it.

I won't lie, though, it does piss me off when people use it as a direct insult and not a casual one. IE: "Go sit down autism, you need to uninstall." or some other such nonsense. That's directly derogatory, and not slang.

Blade of JusticOct 18, 20151 votes

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As someone with Autism, I don't care. This is just people looking for something to be mad about. Also, calling it a learning "disability" is more insulting that seeing people call others Autistic. It has done nothing but help me in life.

However, I see how some people could get upset, and theres really no reason to say it in a game.

No point in me typing this since Bobwillneverdie pretty much summed it up for me.

ComannderShepardOct 17, 201514 votes

Some of my students have autism, as does my brother and I hate that it's become an insult not only in league but also the internet. It sucks and is incredibly infuriating but unfortunately we cant do anything about it. I bet half the people that use the word don't even know what it means.

junglerboy16Oct 18, 20152 votes

It isn't an insult to autistic people per-se, but rather a situation where the person calling you autistic is likening your behavior to someone who is mentally handicapped from the same level of function as an average person. It isn't derogatory towards people with autism, since it is only acknowledging the commonly understood fact that autistic people cannot utilize their brains to the same extent or in the same ways that someone who isn't autistic can, and then saying that the person in question is behaving as though they are mentally handicapped from functioning at 100%. Yes it is an insult either way* and it really shouldn't be something people say**, but it shouldn't be seen as offensive to an autistic person.*

HideInGrannyOct 18, 20156 votes

Did you really just try to justify that calling someone autistic is not deriving from the term autism itself?

junglerboy16Oct 18, 20151 votes

Uh, no, no I didn't, where are you getting that?

HideInGrannyOct 18, 20155 votes

Your response.

Noam BraumskyOct 18, 20151 votes

"it is acknowledging the commonly understood fact that autistic people cannot utilize their brains to the same extent or in the same ways that someone who isn't autistic can"

Also not true.

junglerboy16Oct 18, 20151 votes

How is that not true?

Autism directly affects brain function, there's no two ways about it, you can check any scientific source you' like, or just spend time with an autistic person and you can see clearly that there are certain things their brains cannot process in the same way an unaffected human can.

Noam BraumskyOct 19, 20152 votes

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How is that not true?

Autism directly affects brain function, there's no two ways about it, you can check any scientific source you' like, or just spend time with an autistic person and you can see clearly that there are certain things their brains cannot process in the same way an unaffected human can.

It affects brain function (obviously) but saying autistic people can't use their brains to the same extent as others just isn't true. They have more difficulty understanding some social concepts and standards, but they can still eventually comprehend them. If I don't understand a concept or idea (like why picking your nose in public is frowned upon) it doesn't mean I can't learn. It's just something they know as easily as other people.

A dyslexic's brain has more trouble reading, but that doesn't mean they can't process the words. It just isn't as easy for them.

MelledoneusOct 18, 20153 votes

That's like saying calling somebody a f*ggot isn't offensive because even though it is a slur towards homosexuals, it's used as an insult.

Just... no.

junglerboy16Oct 18, 20151 votes

As I said in one of my other posts, it is most certainly not the same as that, since that is intentionally an insult to both parties.

And again, I'll say this as many times as it takes, it is still an unacceptable insult (just like any insult) I was only explaining why it shouldn't be taken as nearly as offensive as some of the other trash people get called.

MelledoneusOct 18, 20153 votes

You don't make comparisons of how offensive insults can be. That's subjective and you sometimes disagree with a majority that will proceed to downvote you if you do.

junglerboy16Oct 18, 20151 votes

Yeah, I see that now, and all the boards' social warriors are jumping on my poor wording so they can crucify something to prove a point that I keep saying I agree with.

NarsicusOct 17, 20158 votes

Meh, people are always going to find some phrase to insult each other with and more than likely it is going to offend some people where it might hit to close to home. Lame, dumb, retarded, and apparently now 'autistic' the list goes ever on.

I can't help but notice you use the phrase 'idiotic' and call people 'idiots', which for a decent period of relatively recent history was the real term to define people who scored extremely low on tests of intelligence. And yet this terminology seems to be ok with you despite the fact that there are certainly people who fall under this classification.

These are just random insults, and while I certainly do not condone vulgarity under most any circumstance it is something that is going to come up quite often if you want to associate with people online. Remember, they aren't commenting in anyway on the realities of autism (of which they almost certainly know nothing about), just take a deep breath and let it go.

HayRossOct 18, 20154 votes

If you want to get REALLY technical, the word Idiot was a term from classical era Athens to describe someone who didn't vote. At the time, people equated that to "Oh wow, you lazy asshole. We have the most sophisticated form of government in the world, and you don't try to participate in it?". Over time, this just evolved into "You're stupid"

History nerd strikes again!

Photos of GhostsOct 18, 20151 votes

And it also was the name of an alimentation induced illness.

MelledoneusOct 18, 20156 votes

I haven't seen anybody talk about autism like that before, but whoever thinks it's a viable insult is a freaking idiot. Seriously, that's like if I say "This guy is a freaking paraplegic lelelelel."

It's nonsensical, it makes you look like a complete and insufferable imbecile, and nobody cares what you say following a comment like that. People need to find other ways to vent their frustrations than insulting people who deal with issues that they have never had to experience. In my experience, many people who are autistic are some of the most well-meaning, kind, and friendly people I've ever met. I have several friends with minor autism and we became good friends because their character was something that more than made up for their minor faults.

Next time you see somebody insult another by calling them autistic, then just make it clear that autistic people have a much better character and personality than them, because emphasizing on a person's faults which they were born with is perhaps the most cruel thing you can possibly do. I mean, for pete's sake, when's the last time you saw a mature human being point and laugh at somebody in a wheelchair?

I know it may just be me, but I think people like that need to rethink their life choices and if not, need to go through proper societal development before they come to an online community.

PrimaquariusOct 17, 20155 votes

It gets better, you can be called out for Down Syndrome attempting to play hybrid Udyr

Rustling BushOct 17, 20155 votes

before autistic, it was retarded, they're pretty much has the same connotation. not saying its right, just saying nothing really changed

Photos of GhostsOct 18, 20152 votes

One thing has changed. Retarded people rarely play online videogames, so you only had a chance to get a "really" reaction from their families. Autistics on the contrary have absolutely zero problems with having a life on the internet - having to write stuff lets you think about it more longly, which results in less social weirdness.

YorukinOct 18, 20155 votes

Personally, I'd like to blame some of the Autism Awareness campaigns that have been going around the past couple years. Autism Spectrum Disorder is classified as a chronic mental illness in medical terms and a mental/learning disorder in psychlogical terms; this of course must automatically make anyone who has it intellectually inferior, right?

...Yeah, no, it's just yet another buzzword people throw around when they feel someone else is doing something "objectively" wrong. While there are definitely autistics out there who will indeed do stupid stuff and not realize that they're doing so (that's a lot of what autism entails, really), the extent that it happens tends to be relegated to less online things. And while it does happen in-game, a friendly reminder of what they're doing wrong (and NOT toxicity) is typically enough to prompt them to fix up their gameplay.

Problem is, though, autism is being thrown around as an insult, and it hurts no matter who it's said at--kinda like calling someone gay or retarded for the same mistakes. Those without autism take offense at the false accusation, and those with it are hurt that it's being used as a derogatory term.

AxxlonOct 18, 20155 votes

You're expecting league of legends players to have humanity.

That was your first mistake. Autistic or not, you should know better by now. lol

SEKAIOct 18, 20151 votes

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You're expecting league of legends players to have humanity.

That was your first mistake. Autistic or not, you should know better by now. lol

That's why they're all casuals in Dark Souls...

Robotic DolphinOct 18, 20151 votes

*casuls

redniwediSOct 17, 20154 votes

Some people honestly just do not care. Just wait until you meet one of these people in reality and get insulted over something equally as trivial as a video game.

Silents429Oct 18, 20154 votes

Oh look someone telling others what they can and cannot say because it upsets them.

Let me know how that works out.

1000angrybeesOct 18, 20151 votes

That sounds super ignorant. How does that even make sense?

You do realize it's not someone else's job to not be upset at something stupid you said, right? You can say what you want, but there are consequences for it. Some words genuinely shouldn't be used, and some shouldn't be used as insults. It's really not hard to understand.

Silents429Oct 19, 20151 votes

I'm not misinterpreting what's being said?

AdaloreOct 18, 20152 votes

Right there with you on the "Really?" wagon for people using it.

Along with people using "That's so gay" I do attempt to call them out on it. Typically it's people who are so lazy they cannot come up with an original insult so you can peg them on that. Every time I run into it in game I do make a point of reporting it.

Gnawr xdOct 18, 20152 votes

Oh looky here, we got ourselves a SJW straight from tumblr

Photos of GhostsOct 18, 20155 votes

...or just someone who is legitimately pissed by people who think they can afford to do anything to others.

IpressbuttonOct 19, 20152 votes

Sorry you had to go through that.

PDE5 InhibitorsOct 18, 20151 votes

You know it's a circle jerk thread when you see something like, "this should be more bannable than just cussing". Obviously it already is. Stop asking for upvotes, it makes you sound like a 15 year old girl in instagram.

HideInGrannyOct 18, 20152 votes

Yes because I want upvotes. That's why I made a post about the use of the word to spread awareness. Look kid making comments like this doesn't make you look cool in any way shape or form. I also don't need social media but I don't need a boost in my self confidence probably as you do. It isn't more bannable than cussing. Show me proof because there is none. I'd say 10/10 times the person who is cussing is going to get reported and banned over the person who is saying something deriving from autism. Now if you would stop trying to get attention to yourself and get off my post that would be lovely.

PDE5 InhibitorsOct 18, 20151 votes

You are honestly dumb if you actually believe that. I have said a shit ton of cuss words in my games. If you aren't directing it at someone, there is nothing wrong with. Rito has even said they don't punish people simply by cussing. On the other hand, I rarely see anyone call someone autistic. Why? Because the people that do it are punished. If you are honestly going to sit there and say something like, "It isn't more bannable than cussing. Show me proof because there is none. I'd say 10/10 times the person who is cussing is going to get reported and banned over the person who is saying something deriving from autism", then you are either trolling or the biggest idiot I've ever come across in my life.

HideInGrannyOct 18, 20152 votes

You bet ya. So since you have much experience in the area of seeing the use of autism in game then I should definitely consider your opinion. They are reported kiddo and you know what happens? Nothing. Nada. So the same information you present to me makes you look like an idiot and the fact that you are still trying to justify this shit is hilarious. What happened to your upvote response hmmm? Did you give up on that because you're wrong? Honestly you need to stop before you make yourself look like a bigger idiot than what you already are.

ScryerOct 18, 20151 votes

Welcome to the internet, political correctness or morality does not exist, and will not exist here, if it offends you, there is a mute button. You will never truly prevail over the anonymity of dickheads on the internet, my own personal feelings on the matter are irrelevant, because I, and most people have accepted the truth of the internet, you cannot tame this vile creature.

HideInGrannyOct 18, 20155 votes

But you can ban the people who are spreading the hate and make them learn from their mistakes. I don't need a welcome to something I've been using for so long. I know what the internet is like and I also know what Rito's code of conduct is. This is not a post for pc it is a post for awareness and for people to realize that something is really fucked up for what they are saying.

ZulnahdwiinOct 19, 20151 votes

As someone with autism, it honestly doesn't surprise me that people would use words they don't understand to convey meaningless insults. It still offends me, though.

HideInGrannyOct 20, 20151 votes

At least unlike other people you understand :p Too many people are just being mean like a recent post by Walking Faces "Shut up, you autist. The only reason you even have a problem with this is because you're autistic af." I had that comment reported immediately. Some people just need to quit league if they're that toxic.

Malicious FuryOct 22, 20151 votes

Saw this on CNN today.

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