i feel like the new thornmail is worse than the old one after all.
pros for the new one:
-reduces heal -slows AAs -got 250 HP
cons:
-less armor - a lot less damage
old one got: 25% bonus armor + 15% of the enemies attacks new: 10% bonus armor
==> the damage of the old one was a lot stronger than the new one EVEN WITH THE HEALREDUCE.
Atkspeed-slow is useless on this item, it reduce the thorn-impact = counters itself
what is your opinion?
It's an item meant to reduce how much an enemy carry can use you as a moving health battery, and in that respect, this item is better than it used to be. Thornmail was never really meant to be an offensively-inclined item, and seeing as only a few champions could really use it that way, the loss of damage isn't anything I'll be mourning.
Edit: The application of Grievous wounds, even as brief as it is, can't be underestimated. Attacking a Thornmail-laden tank will cut a Soraka's effectiveness on the ADC by half, it'll do the same for summoner heal, Judgement, and so on. The combination of GW , the cold steel passive, and literally any health makes Thornmail into a legit tank purchase instead of an ultra-niche thing that only Rammus and Malph have a real reason to buy.
New one is much better, possibly even too strong. It'll shift the top lane meta heavily I think.
Why are people downvoting this? he's right... the math has been done and old thornmail was actually better vs lifesteal (unless they bought like 3 lifesteal items), for less gold...
AND it did more damage vs those who didn't have lifesteal. this new thornmail is shit and the stats on it make no sense.
