Don't give orders if:

øHaruø··3 votes·312 views
  • You have 12 deaths before 30 minutes
  • You have 30 cs by 30 minutes (top/jungle/mid/adc)
  • You are insane (Repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result)

Really tired of people calling for teamfights when they've failed the first few times. This isn't a MMORPG,MMO or RPG game. There's no reset button, no retries, no "There must be another way through, let's go again". Just stop and try a new strategy.

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Joxcab6 votes

What's the point of this post?

Sona Ping4 votes

Passive-aggression.

øHaruø1 votes

Passive aggression? Right, okay. Like I'd be even remotely angry on a forum. Pfft.

Sir Fuzzi5 votes

"Pfft"?

If we're gonna believe you, you're gonna need more than that.

I'm not gonna lie, you seem like the guy who runs 12 deaths while the team averages 3-5 and then pitches a surrender, and throws a bit of a tiff when it mysteriously doesn't pass.

I know the point you want to make, you just look like a 15-year-old teenage girl venting on her blog about how dumbbbbbbb her classmates are, omfggggggggg like and Mister Thompson too? liiiiiikeeeee.... omfggggg??????

...and I can promise this attitude only pisses them, and the people who don't fall into that category, off. Even if they're being a complete louse, you need to support the team-- anything other than that is, sadly, just kind of the problem... and yes, that's not really fair to people who don't tilt or bash or fuck up repeatedly, but that's kind of what being that sort of person is. It means picking up slack, not leaving it there for someone else to grab.

More importantly than this, you should be suggesting what people can do. Since 12 deaths and failed strategies probably imply the 'can't do' anyway, you know?

I'd just like to reiterate that yes, I know how bitchy League players can get about being advised in any way, shape or form whatsoever. But that doesn't make snide or derisive behavior useful, effective or welcome.

øHaruø1 votes

You took a 13 worded sentence, intended as a joke. Got into your feels and wrote a report. Jesus christ this community @_@

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

Backpedalling, nice.

I addressed your OP, this was your reply.

Passive-aggression is pretty much what you're issuing.

øHaruø1 votes

Meh, no point.

øHaruø1 votes

But I'll entertain ou anyway, I don't run 12 deaths unless it's ARAM or I'm playing with my friends. For instance my worse games this week or past two weeks Was my 0/10 trynda where I was trying to copy Youmoos and his Dark Seal start, where I ignored my laner and I just CS'ed and actually successfully split pushed. The second was where I was playing Lee Sin with my friends and me and the enemy top laner/jungle were constantly trying to 1 vs 1.

Secondly, I don't ff until they've practically gotten to our nexus, I hardly rage in game, it's not worth it, a loss is a loss. I didn't make this post as a suggestion, nor does that mean you should assume I don't give suggestions, nor should you assume I act bitchy or snide in game.In game I'm my own person, if we're losing, I'll try to get myself back in the game, tell others to be careful and wait till X or Y is useful.If I'm winning, I focus on objectives isntead of drawing out the game.

My point also wasn't take my teammates sound dumb, my point was to not shotcall if you're not helping the team in anyway.

It's never that serious.

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

There ya go, that's more like it. Discussion is the first foot of progress.

My point was that this sort of attitude about it isn't helping anyone. It's a dead message falling on deaf ears. If they're still calling shots that far behind, do you think this sort of direction is really going to break through and make them change their ways? I know it doesn't always work, but trying to push your team in the right direction rather than just browbeating them over what they're doing wrong at least has the possibility of moving them forward (and, hopefully, your team as well).

You may not use it in-game, but you use it in regards to the game and that's just gonna piss people off. That's basically the extent of what I'm saying, other than to address that being catty just kind of diminishes your point further.

Is there anything so wrong with the suggestion of pointing teammates in the right direction?

øHaruø1 votes

I never argued against suggesting tips/strategies to teammates, I believe everyone on a team should have their input (yes), but when people do certain things that constantly end in failure, it pains me to see they repeat the same strategy over and over again.

For example, team fighting when behind. In the game before this post, our team was so terribly behind and our jungle just grabbed everyone's attention, rallying them on, telling them to team fight, we had no objectives nor were we ahead in kills. I told them we should not team fight rather, hold what position we can, farm and try to contest dragons when possible.

I was the first person on the team to get a tower in my lane, at that point I have two choices, to roam and help or to keep pushing, I couldn't help the team because, at that time, my adc is 0/6 with smite (She took smite because Jungle didn't appear to be taking smite), their ADC is 6/1, their mid is 13/4 as Morgana vs our 4/9 Riven.

Now, I have no problem with someone dying a lot, especially when it's due to skill difference, however when it's down to repeating something over and over again that's where I have a problem. Our Jungler, was constantly trying to fight and ended up going 6/12, and still trying to rally the team for team fights, whereas I want them to try to defend whatever we can and farm into the game. We had no dragons, they had 3 and we were terribly underpowered but she's spamming chat as to why we should teamfight.

At the end of the day, she's 6/12 and has 35 cs to Shyvanna's 6/3 with 142 cs in a 30 minute game.

The point of the original post was to, shot calling if your calls are clearly not working not whether or not I can offer suggestions (I do). You don't have to do well in a game to shotcall, if you know what you're doing and the team sees that, they'll follow you. However, my point is, when you repeat the same failure over and over + you're not doing so hot, I'm saying you should not shot call.

Ultra Rapid Fyre1 votes

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Passive aggression? Right, okay. Like I'd be even remotely angry on a forum. Pfft.

hes so mad hahahaha

Ralanr4 votes

What if I'm the support who died saving their carry multiple times?

Is my opinion of, "Stop walking into melee" invalid?

øHaruø2 votes

That depends on your carry. Are you dying for something worthwhile in the long-run? Or are dying for no reason

Ralanr2 votes

My carry doesn't die. But they keep making dumb decisions that force me to go in to save them, then I get killed.

Had one game as Braum where I body blocked every single blitzcrank hook (not even kidding. I W'd into so many for my adc).

SwiftKitten881 votes

{quoted}

What if I'm the support who died saving their carry multiple times?

Is my opinion of, "Stop walking into melee" invalid?

yeah i had a game where i died and in do so set up for my team to ace them... my team called me a noob

i had games where my team splitting and i got four of them to chase into thier jungle me for 30 seconds this allowed my team to get 3 towers and an inhib... and we still get one moron on my team who thinks i "got caught out"

there are MANY times where dying is the CORRECT option in order to win the game.

i have even died to set up vision that allowed our jungle to steal the baron and prevent what would have been a loss and turn the game around for a win. my entire team praised the jungler.. except my jungle (who had pinged he had no wards on his item 3711 thanked ME.

dying is bad yes...

but ill trade a death for the enemy nexus any day...

øHaruø1 votes

That depends on your carry. Are you dying for something worthwhile in the long-run? Or are dying for no reason. Because every death is worth some amount of gold and given more time to do something. So even if you died, that's resources to the enemy, so if you keep dying multiple times for someone who isn't worth it. What are you really doing?

Ralanr1 votes

Being a matyr without a cause.

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