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Non-Junglers doing a camp to get an advantage in lane.

Elyika·3/15/2015, 10:55:01 AM·4 votes·2,316 views

Since Pre-Season 5 when the new jungle came out players started abusing the jungle to gain advantage in their lane, thus leading into a snowball. This problem has become more apparent in the Top lane but, it also happens bot lane. It wasn't such a problem the seasons 3 & 4 (except for bottom lane taking wight/double golems to get a third of a level advantage).

This really isn't a problem for champions who can solo clear a camp at level one and make it back to lane fast enough. Champions who can't on the other hand are going to be at a **disadvantage** thus losing games, forcing players to play these champions and use this advantage just not to lose lane in the long run. Making top lane **very stale and boring**.

This type of game-play is also **very negative** for the junglers. The Jungle Season 5 is a very unforgiving place. Without the helping hand of the laners, junglers would have a considerable slow clear as well as an unhealthy one (low hp). There has been games where*** both top and bottom lanes didn't want to leash just because of this advantageous play-style***. Leaving the jungler with a very slow clear and fairly behind to the other jungler.

As we all know, Season 5 introduced the new jungle item and their upgrades to the summoner spell smite. Which also included the feature of not being able to buy jungle items without said summoner spell. Which was a brilliant idea, but with the current problems listed above that has gotten me thinking. Why doesn't riot make it so laners can't get gold or experience from the jungle after a certain time amount of time passes from the start of the game to middle of lane phase.

Like they did season 3 & 4 with towers (to stop early sieges and lane swaps) they could give jungle monsters a special buff which prevents people without the jungle item to get gold or exp from the jungle until a certain amount of time has passed from the game.

TL;DW : OP lvl 2 teleport jung thing.

  1. Laners expoliting jungle to get a sneaky level advantage
  2. Make jungle "junglers only. no laners allowed" for the first 5minutes of the game

17 Comments

IcyPepper3/15/2015, 11:09:04 AM2 votes

A laner who refuses to leash so they can steal a camp at level 1...

... can watch as their jungler refuses to gank properly so they can steal minions from their lane.

DrNova3/15/2015, 9:05:42 PM2 votes

I've seen bot ask for a camp, jungler almost always says its cool. I see no problem with it.

SmknWdl3/15/2015, 2:11:31 PM1 votes

The only time i have seen this work is with sion suiciding the raptors, then tping top on respawn. I mean it's a bit of an issue but really what is the tradeoff? Pissed of jungler that will only bank 35% of the time you ask them cause they're catching up in farm, or a teamwork jungle who even if you fuck up in lane, they'll be there to save your ass. Lets see... I'm not sure.. -___________________________________________-

Silents4293/15/2015, 4:00:10 PM1 votes

Am I the only person who has never seen this? I have seen my bot lane take those rock things, while I take gromp, but thats not a problem at all.

Don't know how your bot lane is refusing to leash AND taking a camp considering you start at the rocks now instead of red. Unless they are stealing it from you.

Honestly everything you said in this post seems like a stretch and something you might encounter Pre- Level 30 every now and then.

Only Play Darius3/15/2015, 9:45:48 PM1 votes

Sometimes if your zoned out of cs, you can ask your jungler if you can have a camp, they understand that giving you the gold is helping you out in your lane.

What sickens me is intentional poaching. Can't tell you how infuriating it is to barely survive the raptor camp, and LeBlanc intentionally steals the last hit on the big raptor. It makes me want to leave the game.

Pæan3/16/2015, 6:11:56 AM1 votes

It doesn't really matter to me as long as they ask nicely for it. I play junglers that dont really need a leash Shaco Zac Gragas Shen Elise just to name a few. As long as they can use that small boost to snowball their lane, awesome! That's one less lane I'll have to worry about helping out every 3 minutes.