Its so hard to carry on mages nowadays

Trap or a Trick··1 votes·538 views

Since magic pen items are beyond useless right now, and mr being so damn cheap and and cost efficient, its made it relatively impossible for mage playres like myself to carry games.

I dominated lane as Xerath VS Lux I was 5/0 before 7 minutes, and could kill my opponent with a basic e,w,q combo.

My fina build was item 3089 item 3285 item 3165 item 3020 item 3135 item 3136 My runes were Standard ap stuff, Magic pen reds, armour blues, cdr/18 and flat mr blues with ap quints, I also had 12/18/0 taking thunderlords and extra penetration.

So as you can see, I had the very most magic penetration you can have (other than magic pen quints but I don't feel like I should have to buy those). My spells were doing Q: 670 W: 930 E: 360 R: 2.5K (all 5 shots) but for some reason, I could do NOTHING to the tanks, instead of hitting for almost 1k burst with a standard combo, I was hitting for 500 with all my spells. The builds were clearly to focus me, and I'm not saying I should be hitting for the same amount on tanks as on squishies, that's just retarded, no, but I DO want my damage to be MEANINGFUL vs a WW no E (or w whatever his fear circle is) active, sure he build full mr (item 1401 item 3009 item 3748 item 3065 item 3091) and the nasus went item 3111item 3065 item 3512 item 3110 item 3025 item 1033. once again, I know some idiots wont read the post and will just down vote and say ''wow this idiot thinks mages should 1 shot tanks WOW'' That's not the case at all, I just feel like mr is a bit Too easy to buy, and the magic pen items are garbage to compensate, For example, Zed vs Xerath , Lets say I'm playing very very well and I kill him level 4, he goes back and buys item 3155 suddenly, no matter what I buy, I can never damage this guy, now he is free to build whatever items he wants, or, if he really hates me item 3156 item 3111 item 3139 item 3814 item 3142 item 3071, He gets really good armour penetration, while also getting really great attack damage stats and a boat load of magic resist, all I can buy is item 3157 ... sure the item hard counter him, but its on a 120 second cooldown, and his ult isn't 100% needed to 1 shot someone, if he pokes a bit with his q beforehand and he carries summoner 14. and the armour granted my zhonyas is... pretty ass, don't get me wrong 45 armour isn't something to scoff at, but I mean, I get 1 item, he gets 4, he can buy boots to counter me, I cant. you can argue that I SHOULD buy ninja tabi, but missing out on 1 of 3 magic pen items isn't really an option. I don't have the pbe so I cant check myself, but ive heard a TON of new magic resist items are getting changed, to grant MORE magic resist, but less Hp... and from what ive seen Magic damage dealers are just going to be left in the dust with their main pen item, costing 2650 and for ad champs its 1300!!

another thing that kind of confused me is that, a good amount of magic damage dealing spells are skill shots, weather they are easy to land or not, they aren't point and click... and, if I'm correct, every. single. champion. does physical damage, even though a Karthus's autos hit for like 30 at level 1 against someone with 0 armour. he still does physical damage. now why is armour items less common in offensive items than magic resist? when not every champion does magic damage, like Darius Draven and most other marksman too.

anyways, nobody is going to agree with me because ''mages are super over powered and they should be nerfed, these mr changes are super smart!!'' AurelionSol Leblanc (technically an assassin but, come on) Azir Fiddlesticks Heimerdinger Karthus Kassadin (also technically an assassin but his burst isn't any where near someone like Rengar Talon or Fizz ) Not all of us are good right now, we aren't all Ahri 's.

anyways, I guess ill have to play cancer ass assasins or tanks now, see you never...

6 Comments

Geshultz1 votes

Well, if you have a lead you should use it to help snowball your other laners by roaming taking objectives ect. If they stack mr then your ADC will shred through them. If they stack armor you will deal with them. I would also say that for nasus you want to shut him down early before he can reach his mid game with stacks and mow down the enemy team with his weak laning phase. To be honest mages aren't suppose to Burst tanks/fighters. They are suppose to kite them with spells and whittle them down similar to ADC. Overall if they are stacking mr it means your team is either magic damage heavy or your team is heavily behind.

Trap or a Trick1 votes

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Well, if you have a lead you should use it to help snowball your other laners by roaming taking objectives ect. If they stack mr then your ADC will shred through them. If they stack armor you will deal with them. I would also say that for nasus you want to shut him down early before he can reach his mid game with stacks and mow down the enemy team with his weak laning phase. To be honest mages aren't suppose to Burst tanks/fighters. They are suppose to kite them with spells and whittle them down similar to ADC. Overall if they are stacking mr it means your team is either magic damage heavy or your team is heavily behind.

I roamed bot lane a lot, I got our bot lane 6 kills, and our team was NOT behind, or magic damage heave, we had a 1/4/3 swain top, 13/7/7 Xerath mid, 8/4/6 rengar jg, 4/2/6 cait adc and 2/3/11 Ad Ashe support. as you can see, we were up on kills, we were also up 3-1 on drags

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

The top 20 winrates for mid all all mages with yasuo and talon being the only non ability power champions. The top 10 is straight ap. It may be hard for YOU to carry but magic damage dominates mid lane as it almost always has. Zed is 28th lol

Trap or a Trick1 votes

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The top 20 winrates for mid all all mages with yasuo and talon being the only non ability power champions. The top 10 is straight ap. It may be hard for YOU to carry but magic damage dominates mid lane as it almost always has. Zed is 28th lol

Panth #4 Twitch #5 Sion #8 Talon # 10

legionnaire991 votes

Twitch midland really?

AmetDeCrypt1 votes

Mordekaiser and Malzahar exist. and I am convinced are the sole reasons ap items aren't going to be seeing buffs any time soon. the problem becomes, do you WANT mages to be relevant late game other than to blow up squishies? because then why would you pick adcs? almost all mages fall off lategame in damage with only a few staying up due to incredible dps Mordekaiser Malzahar Azir Karthus KassadinRyze utility Mordekaiser Malzahar Velkoz Ziggs Zyra AniviaKennen or aoe Mordekaiser Malzahar Brand KatarinaOrianna Syndra and are often (but not alwMordekaiser Malzahar ays) compensated for it with a weaker early game to give enemies more chances to put them down. also some mages burst tanks from incredible ranges and move on to one shotting the squishies anyway. if you ask me some mages are too strong with the particular mage items they scale on.

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