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Relic shield needs some love

Argon Falcon·9/24/2015, 3:16:40 PM·2 votes·514 views

So I happen to be a support main and my major problem with relic shield is that it turns you into a feast or famine support no matter who you play. Most ADCs in every division know to let their support cash in some early stacks on the relic shield, however after the first two or so they and the rest of the team will never let you cash in your stacks. For a support item that is supposed to be the in the middle of the risk/reward in terms of gold generation I am not seeing any reward at all. coin and frost queen get passive gold generation beyond their base mechanic, why shouldn't Targon's / FoTM get the same treatment.

Many games with a relic shield support i end up gold starved in the mid game, because my laners won't allow me to share gold with them. If the game is even or if we are behind i feel like there is no way for me to generate any gold, because the ADC completely forgets about the mechanic post 10-15 minutes and will kill everything before it gets into the execute range.

Even when fully upgraded the shield active is relatively negligable, and much worse than the actives from Locket/ Mikaels. And when compared to the actives from talisman and frost queens its pure garbage. While it may save one person for a half second in a fight, both talisman and frost queen's claim can be used to disengage your entire team from a bad situation.. With the insane low cooldown active and high gold generation from coin (supposed to be lowest risk lowest reward) I can't see any support that it isn't best item for. Even on beefy melee supports the bonus health is negligible and outclassed by a simple sightstone.

I have no problem with the minor sustain provided by the item, i think its in a good place right now, but once again late game its not really that impactful of a mechanic, as most ADC's will get more from their lifesteal items than from your stacks and will still not let you share the money.

before anyone starts flaming for ELO, how many times have you seen a braum or an alistair running around post 20 minutes with a little halo of balls? I've had it happen a lot no matter how hard i try to cash in or even if i remind teammates. I've had friends i was in a skype call with refuse to let me clear stacks no matter what i said.

I have a number of thoughts on how to improve, but obviously all of them can't be put on the item so here is my list of possible changes to add to the FoTM/Targon's Brace/ Relic shield: - change shield to 1.5 sec invulnerability to all damage - add passive gold generation on Tier 2 and above - have execute utilize bonus health instead of ad scaling - make stacks usable when alone in lane, and provide double gold for the minions killed - increase bonus health from item

Hey if i'm completely wrong, then I'm wrong. This is just how i feel about the item in the game right now, its outclassed by other support items and maybe we should take a look at it. Let me know what you think in comments.

Have a nice day

2 Comments

EndlessSorcerer9/24/2015, 3:58:57 PM1 votes

I have a number of thoughts on how to improve, but obviously all of them can't be put on the item so here is my list of possible changes to add to the FoTM/Targon's Brace/ Relic shield:

  • ** change shield to 1.5 sec invulnerability to all damage **
  • add passive gold generation on Tier 2 and above
  • have execute utilize bonus health instead of ad scaling
  • make stacks usable when alone in lane, and provide double gold for the minions killed
  • increase bonus health from item

Yeah, because that isn't going to result in solo-laners abusing it like mad.

Also, Kayle ult on a support item...

Gnart Even Close9/24/2015, 7:01:57 PM1 votes

Double gold on a minion would be broken, but passive gold generation would be awesome. Maybe the passive gold generation could be disabled on CS, so it won't stack with the gold you get from killing minions. That way, it doesn't matter as much if your allies steal all your gold, because the passive gold will compensate somewhat. The execute scaling with bonus health would much better serve the theme and role of the item as well. And instead of making an ally invincible, what if they were immune to debuffs while the shield lasted, like Morgana's Black Shield? That wouldn't be too broken, but it would still feel very meaningful.