Riot is getting worse than EA

wilsuport4coffee··8 votes·1,942 views

I have been put on an 89 game chat restriction. I have sent in a support ticket requesting it to either be lifted, or to show me my chat logs to prove I've been toxic to get an EIGHTY NINE GAME restriction, because I know i haven't. The first response I got was the cliche, "higher than average levels of toxicity" okay, where? show me, I would be delighted to take a gander with you because I'm genuinely curious. I want to see at least 5 game chat logs where I have been excessively toxic. In addition to the cliche response, I was told they do not have chat logs since the tribunal has been down. 1) I know this is a lie because I've received them before and 2) if chat logs truly couldn't be read, how would you know if I'm being toxic or not? I responded and said this, to which Itachi replied, completely ignored my request for my chat logs, and just said im higher than average levels of toxic and they wont remove my restriction.

I am not one of those people that tells anyone to "suck my dick" "get cancer" i don't even tell people to go fuck themselves etc. There was ONE game, and I can't remember how long ago it was, where I actually told my team to fuck off because I got consistently screwed all game yadda yadda, that's not important. anyways, I can tell you what i have been reported for as long as I know: 1) farming. I seriously had a yasuo tell me he was going to report me for farming because i was 0-5-6 vayne and anytime i tried to help in team fights i got INSTANTLY blown up. So what do vayne's do? they split push otherwise. 2) a team mate reported me for assisting enemy team because he was yasuo (what is with yasuo's being D-bags?) and I was nami (this is my account for mainly supporting) and he was DEMANDING i ult for him 24/7 so he could ult regardless of if i was trying to help someone else, so i threw 2 of my ults (less than a minute cool down at this point) at the wall when we were at our own base not engaged in fights. that's it. because he would be flaming me and (OH LOOK, I CAN'T TALK BECAUSE IM ON RESTRICTION) so that's my way of rebelling. This isn't trolling, and we certainly didn't lose the game because of this.** 3)** I was reported by an adc for taking minions. Was I trolling by taking her cs? no. They were minions that she was without a doubt not going to get, so i farmed them, and i told her this. Her response? flame me, leave lane, and blame everything that ever happened to her all game on me. But yet im on a chat restriction? I had an adc TODAY, that was a prick since champ select, then immediately left lane and left me bot vs sivir and morgana because SHE was pissy. Tried to say that I was flaming her all game when Ive been moving my chat box off screen so I just dont have to deal with this. Reported ME for literally nothing. We won the game, despite all of us doing well, I sold my support item and bought damage item and started farming bot lane (not hard as thresh) 4) i was reported once for telling my team our game was a wash, and being overly-optimistic wasn't going to make us win. Have you ever had one of those games where your team is SO BEHIND, you can't win a team fight, cant get objectives because there always there to defend and kill you, you have no dragons, no vision, no anything but your team JUST WONT SURRENDER. They could be up 600 kills, 23 towers, and 17 dragons, and your team still wont surrender? this is what I was telling them. reported. I get reported for telling people to ward, telling people to fucking group up, telling that tank that building armor against an AP champ isn't a good idea. Bless their freaking hearts, the new people to this game. I have literally begged a support to buy a sightstone 30 minutes into the game, and they seriously IGNORE ME. STRAIGHT UP. AND TELL ME TO FUCK OFF. but I'm the one on a chat restriction?

I get referred to the summoner's code, yeah, I've read it, and funny enough it's so vague it barely even tells you about the borders to be in violation of. So I'm not telling people to eat shit or that I'm going to fuck their mom, or to get cancer. Are we seriously playing in an environment where you cant say or do anything without getting chat restricted? Because I am literally MIND BLOWN by the fact I'm on an 89 game restriction, and I can't even get a REAL response from an employee. I don't care if it's a real, live, breathing employee copying and pasting some cliche crap into the subject box, I want a genuine response. I seriously want to know, am I just not supposed to talk what so ever? then why have the chat boxes? How some people go completely unrestricted just leaves me speechless. The very last report I got that was right before this chat restriction was from an ashe, I forget what happened exactly but she was like MEGA MAD, and i dont even remember why, but she decided to troll and feed on purpose. I never cussed at her, I never got angry, I literally told her, "you act like I care that you're feeding. You feed, that's on you, that's not on me. you've openly admitted in chat you're trolling, and you're going to report me? I haven't even been toxic nor am i trolling this game. What are you going to report me for then?" right after that, restriction. I said the same thing to my adc today, "you're the one that has been flaming and cussing all game, what are you going to report ME for?"

So seriously, Riot. I've been playing this game for four years, and after just one year of the automated system, I'm about at limit and am going to call it quits if this doesn't end ASAP. I never had this problem when the tribunal was up, NEVER. and the fact its been down for over a year, and countless people have complained against this automated system is really just sad beyond anything else.

67 Comments

Garurumon12 votes
  1. Wall of text that obliterates the English language.

  2. If you are chat restricted, you earned it.

  3. No company is worse than EA.

wilsuport4coffee2 votes

You don't even take the time to read my post? Then don't comment on it and assume you know everything, thanks.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Do you even have the time to paragraph & bullet-point properly?

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

I HAD it in paragraph form when I typed it, indented and everything. When I hit post, it literally became the blob that it is now. You can tell at the end of some sentences where i had it separated because there's nothing else at the end of that line. So quit being a dick.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Once upon a time, there was a little girl who lived in a village near the forest. Whenever she went out, the little girl wore a red riding cloak, so everyone in the village called her Little Red Riding Hood.

One morning, Little Red Riding Hood asked her mother if she could go to visit her grandmother as it had been awhile since they'd seen each other.

"That's a good idea," her mother said. So they packed a nice basket for Little Red Riding Hood to take to her grandmother.

When the basket was ready, the little girl put on her red cloak and kissed her mother goodbye.

"Remember, go straight to Grandma's house," her mother cautioned. "Don't dawdle along the way and please don't talk to strangers! The woods are dangerous."

"Don't worry, mommy," said Little Red Riding Hood, "I'll be careful."

.....to be continued


Seems fine to me.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

oh okay, you're going to stick with being an absolute dick then? okay, be a dick. I really don't care. It works in my other comments too, :O WHAT A SHOCK! my, what a genius you must be. Take it or leave it, kid.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes
  1. Learn how to counter-argue well kid.
  2. Take some time with Basic Computer-Skills class & Anger management. It'll be worth it, trust me ;)
wilsuport4coffee1 votes

Work on your god complex, and maybe getting surgery to have the stick removed from your arse. I'm sure with enough practice and help you'll eventually be likeable enough to maybe even have a friend some day. Until then, I'm done with you. Good day!

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Wow, you really don't know how to troll huh? Tbh, that's not how you do it lol.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

You know, on a last note, the chat restriction system is garbage? you are aware of that right?

There have been tests done on it where people have gone on alt accounts/played with their friends, asked to be reported after game, and they still got restricted despite saying nothing in game? Oh? you weren't aware? Or maybe you are and you're one of the assholes who read that someone is on chat restriction and automatically ASSumes they deserve it, but think they don't.

If I really believed I was being toxic, would I be fighting so hard to get my chat logs in support tickets? It's not the restrictions that I care about, it's the principle. It's all around the principle of the matter. Sometimes I want to joke with my team, sometimes I want to joke with the enemy team. And it's turned into such a bad environment where I've literally started taking my chat box off the screen because I can't even deal with the stupidity anymore.

And yet, here my board post is, enforcing that this community is just a bunch of assholes. look at the downvotes all over anything I post, why is that? because people automatically ASSume I'm completely in the wrong, and this is exactly what i have a problem with. I don't want the restrictions because i haven't been acting toxic. Having automatic punishments in place when you have a community notorious for reporting for everything (did you notice this account is level 20, or did you even read that far?).

I'm with the no toxic shit myself, ban the IP's of the people who purposely feed. I was playing with a tahm today, swallowed me and spit me out over the wall of the enemy base for 0 reason. i didn't get mad, I literally thought, "why is this guy trolling me? he is mad because i got the kill just now? did he want it...?" and it wasn't until i saw him swallow our jungle about to take blue that i realized he was just being an ass. BAN THAT. ban the people who are like "fuck you, fuck your mom, fuck your cat, die in a hole you useless piece of shit" yes, that is completely uncalled for and unnecessary. Thats why I don't want a big target on my account when I'm not doing anything like this.

But no, everyone just assumes otherwise and I have to deal with your crap, and everyone else who constantly comments on this being yet again another asshole. Like my husband said, I might as well find another MOBA to play.

PVPMage1 votes

if you gonna get mad at him like this while you're saying you dont deserve chat bans, (skype is mah breh if i ever get chat banned) then have fun in smite or Dota or whatever MoBa you want

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

"mad" why is that the ONLY thing you people have to say? "you mad bruh" people getting on this post being a dick to ME, im giving them the exact same sarcastic responses, they get upvotes, i get downvotes, yet you can't even see the irony in what you say. I'm not concerned with your all's obviously flawed logic on this subject, and if you think it isn't flawed, take a good look at all the responses again. You come in here with a pre-madeup negative mindset, then want to give me all this crap for not even being TOXIC to these people. Its literal sarcasm and calm responses.

I truly feel sorry for you, because seriously, people like you are proving my point further without even realizing it.

SEKAI2 votes

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No company is worse than EA.

Tbh I think Ubisoft and Konami are getting there.

GreenLore1 votes

I guess Ubisoft and Konami are the 2nd and 3rd most evil game company,maybe they will eventually claim the throne from EA.

3TWarrior1 votes

Valve and Nexon are pretty bad

3TWarrior1 votes

valve and nexon are pretty bad

it wasn't TOO badly written but was a wall of text

who knows what can happen...i've reported plenty of toxic people and never been informed of any results and some people have claimed to report me. There was even another person who posted on the forums about having an increasing chat restriction while they can't chat

every time they started the client it would get worse, but I have a feeling they just didn't know an offensive word in their vocabulary somewhere, but wait, if you can't chat, how does that happen?

TheGrandAlliance2 votes

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  1. No company is worse than EA.

He did say "getting there" which grammar wise is a present-progressive predicate... that means of course RIOT isn't "yet" worse then but is "moving toward" such outcome alas....

Regardless of the OP and its relevant nature to his chat ban... the shear downfall this game is in over last approx. year now (basically everyone/all content post Braum patch wise) is evident and there are some valid comparisons to EA that can be made (Star Wars Online, Warhammer Online as some).

CubedJustice7 votes

My grandpa smoked his whole life. I was about ten years old when I heard my mother tell him "If you don't stop smoking, you'll never see your grandkids graduate." Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what was at stake, and he never touched another cigarette in his life. He died of lung cancer three years later. It was really sad, and it destroyed our whole family. My mother made me promise to never touch a cigarette, and I didn't. And I kind of regret never trying it, because your post gave me cancer anyway.

wilsuport4coffee2 votes

Congratulations on being part of what's wrong with this community c= thanks so much for your input! As soon as we can find someone who actually cares, we'll get back to you ASAP. Thanks for contacting wilsuport4coffee and come see us again soon!

PVPMage1 votes

if you're like this, then chat bans were wurf

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

Yet all these people being a dickhead are completely innocent? you can't recognize the difference between sarcasm and being toxic? then you're part of the problem where you just think anyone who says anything that isn't praise is toxic. This is literally why the tribunal was better. All you people down-voting my shit when its either calm responses or sarcastic responses to people hopping on the harrass train, I've had enough. I have literally had enough of this mentality.

You think THAT is chat-ban worthy? You seriously have issues.

PVPMage1 votes

lol i was laughing reading this. you obviously dont know what can make people upset, saying stuff like go "go f***ing ward" is quite hurtful to anyone. if anything you have the issues of not understanding the human psyche

LaowPing2 votes

There needs to be a way to honor people for post. I don't know if this is copied or original but it is one of the best things I've seen on this board.

CubedJustice2 votes

It's actually a greentext. I would've given credit, but that wouldn't really have fit the theme.

Icestar11865 votes

Stopped reading after "threw 2 ults at the wall." That IS assisting the enemy team. I don't care if Yasuo was being a dick. Deliberately wasting a teamfight-changing ult is assisting the enemy team and I will report people for it.

Also: Chatlogs?

Also: The summoner's code boils down to don't be a dick. I did notice you complaining about being referred to it when I skimmed the rest of your post.

wilsuport4coffee

How is that assisting enemy team? It isn't. Are you aware of what helping your enemy team win means? this is why I included it was on less than a minute cooldown. That's not assisting ANYONE, that's not even hindering one single fight. So, please, stop where you are.

Yes! and this is why i'm requesting my logs for proof. there is a fine line between toxic, and either not kissing someones ass all game and being real with them, or they just report you for no reason, like the ones I've listed above. feel free to read them before you actually comment everything.

and yes, because in the first response i was referred to the summoners code, and I replied yet again and said I seriously beg to differ that I'm in violation.

Icestar11864 votes

So you are saying that you NEVER get into teamfights when your ult is on cooldown? That the ults you wasted couldn't POSSIBLY have been put to better use? Assisting the enemy team includes things like that. If you get into a teamfight and your ult is on cooldown because you threw it at the shopkeeper, you might lose a fight you could have won. That can change the outcome of an entire game.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

Were you in my game? Do you know what we were doing? I'm not going to toss my ult right before a team fight, or even walking out into the map to spite the one person on my team being a dick. Again, step off, kid. As I said in the post, which most of you don't even read; You seriously read "chat restriction" and automatically assume im some raging retard, that I was helping other people on my team. I was even in duo-que with someone.

I can honestly admit I have never, ever trolled a game. I have never set out to feed or seriously screw my teammates over so that we lose a game. never. That ult was not missed, trust me, but thanks for your genuine concern, boss!

Icestar11861 votes

I was not in your game, obviously. However, you do not have chat logs (although you do have some story about Riot not giving them to you?), you are being rude and confrontational, your post is a painful wall of text, and you frankly aren't helping your case by insulting Riot and anyone who dares to suggest that you might have been anything less than perfect. I read the rest of your post and it hasn't changed my opinion a bit.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

Then you don't have a place to say anything at all. And no, I'm not being confrontational, I'm a player who has submitted multiple support tickets and can't get a response. Why is this my fault? You all read chat restriction and think you know me, think I know I'm wrong, think I deserve it but I don't. Well, you're WRONG.

I have seriously on four different accounts ask to see my chat logs, and I have been ignored each and every time until someone finally gave up and said they're transferring me to a specialist. If you were put on a BAN unfairly, would you not be pissed off? yeah, I'm pretty sure you would be. No one is perfect every single game, every one always has bad games and gets stressed out.

And my opinion that you seem pretty stuck up isn't going to change, because my board and all my comments prove what an overall asshole this community really is, and it just further proves my point. God forbid we were in a game right now, all you judgmental people would probably report me for something stupid, then I would get a restriction like I'm on now, and it would be a never-ending cycle.

"unless you have something nice to say, don't say anything at all" -riot robot employee

and yes, that includes you and your passive-aggressive BS trying to insinuate im in the wrong. If this were reportable, arguing with me alone would be enough to get you restricted too!

I'm done with you. Ta-ta.

Icestar11863 votes

Passive-aggressive? I'm saying flat out that you seem to have deserved the chat restriction. You have presented utterly no evidence in your favor. You claim to have been denied chat logs, but you do not post a copypaste of the denial. When we are justifiably skeptical, you insult us.

It is obvious that further discussion will continue to be nonproductive, so I will abandon this argument as well.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

Oh, you're saying I'm lieing because I haven't posted a screen shot of it? seriously? I most definitely will if that's what you want for proof. And no, people are just being skeptical, they're being down-right rude.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

this is one-

Icestar11862 votes

This says "unrestrict me," not "Could I have the chat logs?" I am not surprised that you didn't get them, because you didn't ask specifically for the logs.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

I'm having a huge problem uploading these. one sec

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

seriously, anytime i try to upload one now its stays at 0% status and won't upload. I have 3 more where i actually did specifically request my logs

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

IE: by asking for confirmation, I mean my logs. also, I guess i just can't upload the following ones. SUDDENLY these boards don't want to let me up load anything, as i said, it's stuck at 0% any time i try to add or drop files. I don't know why it's doing that, and I've tried closing everything out, and logging back in, still having the same problem. Go rito boards.

Icestar11861 votes

Try turning your computer off and on again? Or using a different browser?

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

FINALLY, i just took them all together on a screenshot and saved in a different program, lord have mercy.

Icestar11861 votes

It seems odd that they won't give you chat logs. However, cussing at your teammates is in fact toxic and does warrant a restriction as far as I understand it. Instead of "fucking ward," try "we need more vision or we could lose this game."

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

Yet, the proof is there ^^^ maybe someone will eventually get back with me, who knows. and no, saying "fuck" does not automatically mean you should get a chat restriction. This is why the automated system is bull, in the tribunal people were allowed to read everything, and actually took context into situation.

When i've asked you 3 times to get a sightstone, and it's now 30 minutes in the game, and we're constantly without wards because the main person who is supposed to have a plethora of wards is ignoring you and building a sunfire cape? I'm pretty POSITIVE saying, "THRESH. please get a fucking sightstone for crying out loud" doesn't warrant anything. at all.

This is why the tribunal was much better than this. People curse leisurely, who cares? as long as you're not excessively cursing or being vulgar, i see 0 problem with it. riot even points that out in a tip at the beginning of game, "a chat filter is not a reason for you to excessively curse" it's SUPPOSED to be an 18yr+ game, pretty sure people can handle an occasional curse word, or a world wide MOBA isn't for you more than likely.

PVPMage1 votes

yet they explicitly said and from how you are talking, that you have higher toxicity than average. This seems quite evident on how you have responded to multiple replies to your whining.

And you also say you are "being real with your team" but Icestarr1186 addressed this well, you need to make your team WANT to ward instead of just swearing and not explaining why.

And please note that they said the tribunal is at least in a bad condition which is a reason and a valid one at that, if its not even working all that well, they cant just hand out that sort of info. they are the final word and no amount of cussing and whining will change it

You also said you have 4 accounts, is that because you've recieved chat bans before? and if so that also shows us that you are toxic. so please just instead of "being real" be nice, thats a thing a majority of our community can learn

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

No, this is an automated response. Do you have reading comprehension? this is why in 2 different areas I've requested to deal with a real person, because the automated system IS NOT REVIEWED. It's not looked at by real people until a ban comes about- so I've read.

No one has read my stuff, this is why when ive asked for the logs, no one has been able to present them and has to shift my ticket. because its AUTOMATED BANS BASED OFF REPORTS. and this account is at a low-elo where I'm literally reported for anything.

  1. i'm not the one who has four accounts, thats what a trolling adc told me when she decided to feed and troll and i told her she was going to get banned, she said "i dont care i have four accounts" seriously, are you even reading these all the way through, or?

  2. As i've stated TWICE already, I've gone with the nice way plenty of times. as i've also stated MULTIPLE TIMES I've also taken my chat box off my screen to ignore the chat system all together.

Please, I wish you all would actually read and comprehend what I'm saying before you try to throw shade at me.

TheGrandAlliance1 votes

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No, this is an automated response. Do you have reading comprehension? this is why in 2 different areas I've requested to deal with a real person, because the automated system IS NOT REVIEWED. It's not looked at by real people until a ban comes about- so I've read.

No one has read my stuff, this is why when ive asked for the logs, no one has been able to present them and has to shift my ticket. because its AUTOMATED BANS BASED OFF REPORTS. and this account is at a low-elo where I'm literally reported for anything.

  1. i'm not the one who has four accounts, thats what a trolling adc told me when she decided to feed and troll and i told her she was going to get banned, she said "i dont care i have four accounts" seriously, are you even reading these all the way through, or?

  2. As i've stated TWICE already, I've gone with the nice way plenty of times. as i've also stated MULTIPLE TIMES I've also taken my chat box off my screen to ignore the chat system all together.

Please, I wish you all would actually read and comprehend what I'm saying before you try to throw shade at me.

Well I agree with your premise but for different reasons. Your situation is a personal story that affects you. I rather much prefer to make an argument on the core problem or "meta" if you will which is this game is going down nonetheless.

However yes it is true that chat ban situation can get out of control. If you already have a history of bans a single incident can send you ages behind as I have seen with some of my friends alas.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

now #4 is a second ticket i sent on the 10th after I got the following first responses, never got a response to that ticket so far either. Just like, nothing useful. If they're unable to provide my logs to me in a ticket, but say im toxic, then have to transfer my ticket to a specialist because THEY have the logs, then weren't they lieing to whole time they were responding to me in the first place?

The bit about not having logs due to the tribunal being down is definitely a lie, I have received chat logs from employees in the time it's been down. THIS. this is why im completely frustrated. Like, i don't even understand what was wrong with the tribunal in the first place?

Take just an hour or 2 ago, my husband wanted to get his first win, and i played with him. I hide my chat box so I can't see it (out of sight, out of mind, right?) the only thing I said all game was to xin to group with us when we're team fighting (we're winning, we're pushing their lanes up, but he's MIA when team fights going down because he's farming mid) he literally said, "fuck you, don't tell me what to do". I hid my chat box again, brought it up later to throw up a surrender vote because my team was throwing REALLY hard, and xin and warwick says, "you dumbasses, are you fucking retarded? why surrender?" then report US after game, got a warning and everything. This, this is what keeps happening to me.

Why have an automated system with children like this playing, then not monitor it??

The12thman941 votes

I was with you in your argument, but then I read your comments to other peoples responses and I can see why you are chat restricted.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

Oh, you mean the people who are being offensive on my post and I'm responding? Apparently you didn't read enough. If you call that being toxic, you're way too sensitive.

The12thman941 votes

Most of them weren't being offensive... I read all of it. I call it being confrontational which can lead to many people reporting you for being toxic.

Troy2426211 votes

LOL. Riot doesn't advertise something then it turns out they blatantly lied. Riot doesn't falsify information on a regular f---ing basis. Riot actually has shown they enjoy their fans and love the support that they get. Riot doesn't prevent you from complaining about them or their game (And in fact use constructive criticism from time to time). Riot isn't pathetically greedy and charge you with micro transactions just to get a whole damn game, then let you buy power like a P2W whore modeled game would. Riot doesn't leave their game broken for MONTHS just to finish counting their f-cking money. Riot doesn't cashcow their games with no effort whatsoever put into them. Riot doesn't just consider their fans to be dollar signs.

Riot may have a lot of problems, they may make a lot of mistakes, but they are NOT EA. When they say something, I can reasonably expect them to be honest, and I don't feel like I'm just a dollar sign they give no shits about. EA takes every opportunity they can to just flip their customers off. I'd much rather give my money to Riot,...

NO company is as bad as EA is. They have this reputation for a very good reason. They consistently do skeevy things and clearly care only about their dollar, and to Hell with everyone else. Let's just take 20% of the finished game out then scalp the wallets of anyone stupid enough to buy it. Let's greedily force pre-orders to get a finished game.

No. Riot isn't EA, and no other company is.

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