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Garen needs to be buffed

Killyark1··1 votes·739 views

Firstly, English isn't my first language so plz don't mind poor grammer.

In skill description, Garen's Q(Decisive strike) cooling time as 8 sec which is not true. When u press Q movement speed increased 30% for 1.5/2/2.5/3/3.5sec per level and the skill isn't cooling during movement speed increased. So the Decisive strike "real" cooling time becomes 9.5/10/10.5/11/11.5 per level which make Garen as crap champ. Even TF's gold card can makes Garen never reach to him. I've tested this; actual Garen Q cooling time is way longer than described, Chasing TF was impossible at all. I don't know why balance team never care about this, if the cooling time is their intention, Just Erase the champ there is no reason to pick this champ at all. the motion of Q is too huge and slow, anyone over gold ranked can use flash before Silence. You removed cc reduction from Garen's W that was suck too(I don't understand why nrfed this).

And also it is known that Darius and Garen designed to be rival, actually designed to be "Counter" not rival. There is nothing better reason to pick Garen than Darius. Darius is much more stronger in both lane and team fight even split push. Renga vs Khazix or Jax vs irelia can be fair enough but Garen vs Darius is worst balance ever seen in my life. Even silver Darius can beat Plat Garen easy.

For balance team, If you are not planning to remove Garen from league of lengend you need to understand pros and cons of the champ and I guarantee that your team is not understanding at all what makes Garen sucks. At least, fix the ult bug.

  1. Fix the Q cooling time and stupid slow motion
  2. rollback the cc decrease from W
  3. Give some advantages against Darius.
  4. Or just Erase the champ Work harder plz riot

12 Comments

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

His Q cooldown only starts after he hits someone with it or runs til the duration wears off. That's intended since he's not the only one with a cooldown type like that.

if the cooling time is their intention, Just Erase the champ there is no reason to pick this champ at all.

Words like this are typically why people can just come here, downvote without reading & move on. This is not a "legit" argument at all.

You removed cc reduction from Garen's W that was suck too(I don't understand why nrfed this).

He was also compensated for getting bonus Armor & MR with every enemy units he kills. Plus, he has way enough defensive stats with his W damage reduction & passive healing, there's no need to exaggerate in getting him a 3rd defensive stat like Tenacity.

And also it is known that Darius and Garen designed to be rival, actually designed to be "Counter" not rival.

Tryndamere 's rival is Aatrox , but the latter one is in one hell of shit-tier compared to Tryn. Volibear Zilean are rivals, and both are't even on the same attributes. Sion Galio are also rivals, but I see 0 games concerning their rivalry.

But what my point means is that, just because there's a rivalry, does not mean both has to be on the same power spike as much as possible. Tbh, even a good Garen player can win lane against a Darius with good timing.

For balance team, If you are not planning to remove Garen from league of lengend you need to understand pros and cons of the champ and I guarantee that your team is not understanding at all what makes Garen sucks.

Man, you're just making your thread losing more credibility with that "solution" of yours. You do know Garen is still one of the best top lane champion in beating the likes of Sion Riven Illaoi Nasus Renekton Rengar Yasuo

Killyark11 votes

You do know Garen is still one of the best top lane champion in beating the likes of blahblah ===>> not Nasus. before remake, it was more easy to deny Nasus from minions but now just a 1 core item makes Nasus much stronger than Garen or just 200~300 stacks and getting more stronger later. Even the other champs listed aren't easy as you think (except Yasuo).

good Garen player can win lane against a Darius with good timing. ===>> Yeah, like challenger Garen vs Bronze Darius. Never seen Dia Garen wins dia Darius. It is a rare case Challenger meets Bronze at ranked, and still true that there is no advantage picking Garen than Darius cuz the champs that u think Garen can beat, much more easy for Darius.

Killyark11 votes

If you can notice me, can you let me know "at least one" advantage (or any better thing) that Garen has than Darius??? "AT LEAST ONE"?

redniwediS1 votes

Garen really doesn't need a buff. He might need a power adjustment to move power between different parts of his kit, but a straight up buff? No.

SrbLud1 votes

Garren is acctually in a good place right now with a 52% win rate.

For a top champion he is above average in: Kills Gold earned Win rate Damage taken

Bellow average: Assits Damage dealt

So i think i shouldn't go further than this...

Killyark11 votes

That win rate is "average" of all ranks. compare the win rate of Garen from Bronze to gold vs Plat to Challenger. Garen is just a tanky minion upper ranked

SrbLud1 votes

Riot doesn't aim buffs or nerfs at any rank....They do it for everyone... What you just said makes no sense...

Killyark11 votes

What I mean is Garen is too simple to counter at least you are not unskilled as bronze.(Doesn't matter which champ you pick, most of LoL champs can crush Garen with little knowledge of the champ)

Riot doesn't aim buffs or nerfs at any rank ===>> They don't intend to aim but it happend anyway. Garen is only remarkable champ for low ranked.

Zoeeee1 votes

I think garen is a bit to much a of a bully vs other non tank champions. If anything they could remove the slow removal on q, since it's just a free win ability, and add some true damage to his basic attacks vs the vallian. Also lower his base armor.

redniwediS1 votes

Garen already has true damage on his basic attacks against the villain. His ult's passive makes his ult do true damage instead, but also adds 1% max health true damage to his basic attacks and each tick of his spin.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Garen needs to be buffed

You should be incarcerated for even thinking such blasphemies. I hope Trump passes a law against making such statements!!!

Killyark12 votes

Hope U.S not bankrupt before the moron passes the law.

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