I'm just a bronze skrub so i might a dumb idea but here goes: her r could work like grave's q in that there are a couple of projectiles flying out in a cone so riven would have to be at-least in melee range to get her full ult dmg .Also her w could have a max number of champs hit at like 2 or something so it's not as crazy :l i am ready for the down votes so do your worst.
daemanic2 votesGIVE HER ENERGY PROBLEM SOLVED
AscendedxBlade2 votesyes give her and garen energy that will help and ill upvote this thread as riven is in need of a nerf not cuz shes super stong just that all her counters got nerfed now she has none.
luckmallory1 votesPeople have already speculated this. They would have to increase the damage close range and nerf it longer range. This would just keep her the same because her laning would get better, but her team fighting would be worse. No one picks her for team fighting anyway
WyldeFyres1 votesThe nerf on the R projectile speed already means that it you're not using it at close range you're using it poorly. The W change doesn't seem very useful as it would be rare for any team to want more than 2 people in range of it, plus if riven is W'ing after a flash into the enemy team or something like that, she's either going to die, or she's so fed/skilled that she is going to kill everyone (with or without stun).
The Sword Saint1 votesEvery single aspect of riven's kit is interact able. All of her abilities are skillshots, they can all miss or be dodged. She's not pantheon with a point and click ranged spear for harass on low cd and a point and click stun and one non point and click skill that's only used when they're stunned anyways.
Anyone who fights riven can outplay her by the nature of her kit. In exchange, she has tools to survive bad lanes or falling behind such as her shield and waveclear to farm under turret, and a close range stun to deter dives.
She already has counterplay woven into her kit. She's not a ball of stats. Therefor (amoung other reasons) she won't be getting a rework - or at least if she ever does it will be completely different from darius/garen/skarner/mord and for different reasons entirely.
Also, she builds only ad and does only physical damage as a specific design decision to play up her role as leagues version of a fighting game character. It's not a random coincidence that you just happened to notice that she only has ad ratios and does only ad damage.
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Anyone who fights riven can outplay her by the nature of her kit.
Hahaha, no. You don't outplay Riven. Riven outplays herself and dies like an idiot.
The Sword Saint1 votesShe can't outplay herself unless she tries to do something beyond her ability and you punish her for it, much like any other time someone makes a mistake and gets punished for it.
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She can't outplay herself unless she tries to do something beyond her ability and you punish her for it, much like any other time someone makes a mistake and gets punished for it.
Exactly? And that's pretty much the only thing that can beat a Riven outside a few hard counters.
BIG BAD AXE MAN1 votesthis is laughable. you're telling me your team was stupid enough to group together so tightly that you were all affected by riven's W? lmfao.
