@Riot: Honor Opponents

Battalion··18 votes·622 views

I am getting tired and rather nettled at telling a witty or hard working opponent " I would honor you if I could lolz" where I used to be able to. Fix this shit. I should be able to give my honor to one teammate and one opponent, if I wish to do so. Sometimes you get that one guy who is trying his hardest, doesn't give up, has a constantly toxic team, and you want to give him something other than just a defeat screen to mark his efforts. This seems like a downgrade in Honor 2.0. I suggest Honor 2.1 Deluxe be rolled out immediately.

If this is already in the works...good job. awkward head nod

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Rester6 votes

Yeah I had cases where the enemy team is cooler than my own team and I'd rather give my honor to them.

Battalion2 votes

Right? Yet somehow, somewhere a tilted toxic teemo just downvoted me.

WDG Devour1 votes

When are people going to stop asking for this? Didn't Riot say no to this....

Also I don't care how respectable my opponent was in a game it's pointless to create a honour system that allows me to honour my OPPONENTS as opposed to my ALLIES or even both. A lot of players don't even honour allies at all even if they played well and you're here begging to upvote your opponents.

I'm sorry I just don't get it, maybe it's just me but I hope Riot doesn't bother with something AS pointless as honouring opponents.

Battalion2 votes

It used to be a thing for many, many years. Also you not carrying how fun or how tolerable your opponent or teammate was is what creates more toxicity. You couldn't care less to give a pat on the back but I guarantee that if I had logs of your games i could find several cases of you flaming when they mess up. And no one was suggesting that you had to pick between them. I want a system that gives me the option to honour 2 people; one on my team and one of my opponents.

WDG Devour1 votes

People can't even be bothered to honour one ally... how much more an opponent. That is my point and I'm sure it's what Riot also implied when asked this question in Ask Riot. Creating a system that could potentially be extremely redundant is a waste of time.

I don't ever flame, very calm individual.

Me not caring how fun or tolerable my opponent is doesn't make me or anyone toxic.... I don't care if my opponent was funny/tolerable etc they are my opponent at the end of the day and I don't have to do anything special like giving an honour to my opponent "not be toxic". A simple "gg wp" is enough honour that I show to my opponents. If I said "gg ez your all trash" maybe that would be toxic.

We really don't need a system for honouring our opponents when you can just say gg wp... but if you and all the people that are desperate to honour opponents again want to cry back this into existence good luck to you all is all I have to say. They did say they would revisit honouring in 2018 so maybe wait till then at least.

Lord Phazanor 4 votes

I play Teemo yet I upvoted. IMHO, every melee top that didn't AFK after 10 mins of laning against Teemo deserves Honor. Yet they usually just end up being flamed by their team for being useless.

BLACK REALM GOD2 votes

honorable opponent = not having to report your opponent.

honorable teammate = not having to report your teammate.

honor system = who carried the team/who gave the team free stuff/who had the best jokes/who didn't afk or disconnect

this is how i see the system.

it's not how i want to see the system, but that's just my take on it from my own personal experiences.

Battalion1 votes

honorable opponent = not having to report your opponent.

honorable teammate = not having to report your teammate.

That is perhaps one of the most low-key toxic attitudes I have ever been "privileged" to be informed actually exists.

honor system = who carried the team/who gave the team free stuff/who had the best jokes/who didn't afk or disconnect

AKA Made your experience more enjoyable. Yeah, I think that's worth something. You don't?

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

the people who are great teammates more often than not dont spend their time annoying their teammates with chat. this is true in most cases. those that are playing on a premade team are likely friends or are strangers attempting to make friends. in both scenarios there will be a preconceived notion that either a. you have to honor someone because of x reason or b. y and z reason prevent you from honoring n.

due to the incentive to always honor in order to boost the amount of honor you receive and the fact that chat can be muted by both the player and chat ban restrictions makes the honor system less than adequate in my eyes.

i dont care about honoring opponents or teammates. personally i think the system would be better with a reputation system instead of an honor system.

every match you play you can earn up to 9 positive or 9 negative reputation for each unique summoner you play with and anywhere in between with repeats only updating previous reputation marks. to me this makes more sense in the grand scheme of things because it would combine both honor and the player behavior system into one. every season it would reset.

Battalion1 votes

the people who are great teammates more often than not dont spend their time annoying their teammates with chat. this is true in most cases. those that are playing on a premade team are likely friends or are strangers attempting to make friends. in both scenarios there will be a preconceived notion that either a. you have to honor someone because of x reason or b. y and z reason prevent you from honoring n.

There are players who use chat to communicate complex instructions that pinging cannot do so effectively. Or they're trying to calm a feud and keep attention focused on the game. In both scenarios that is worth giving someone a bit of a pat on the back via honor.

due to the incentive to always honor in order to boost the amount of honor you receive and the fact that chat can be muted by both the player and chat ban restrictions makes the honor system less than adequate in my eyes.

Before Honor 2.0 there was a very, very short period of time in Seasons 1 & 2 where Ribbons were given out for players having received enough honor. As the game grew, less and less honor was being given out, even if you deserved it. There was 0 incentive on your end unless you were feeling extremely charitable. You can very easily choose not to honor anyone and people still do.

every match you play you can earn up to 9 positive or 9 negative reputation for each unique summoner you play with and anywhere in between with repeats only updating previous reputation marks. to me this makes more sense in the grand scheme of things because it would combine both honor and the player behavior system into one. every season it would reset.

Honor is a progression and to reset progression doesn't seem very likely. Especially when the reward is "only" a ward possibly and a border flair which is up to the whim of your peers to have visible anyway. If it reset what would happen is that as honoring diminished, which it will again mark my words, then you would be back at square one. That terrible place where Honor Version 1 ended up.

Vyr Thirku1 votes

I agree with this. I've been playing for quite some time, across multiple accounts and servers, so I've personally never really gotten any huge honor rewards myself, but I remember being able to be like 'Damn dude, that Yi dodged everything I had, every fight, played super well, carried his team as hard as he could, but we had a Taric with a point and click stun so he just couldn't do it.' and honoring the dude for being a good sport and not spamming 'zomg noob champ' in all chat like so many others would in his situation. It would definitely be nice to get the ability to do this back.

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