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Riot went too far with Fiora

Ðoggo·3/28/2016, 3:12:16 PM·5 votes·1,098 views

So, yeah im a Fiora main and first of all I ve never played with titanic. I used to play AD Fiora Hydra,BC,Merc,Steraks and A def item. Her win rate is at 45% and its like reallly difficult to come into the game. I have 160 k on Fiora, im not that bad, but after those nerfs i lose to almost every single Champion, IN SILVER. I cant do shit. The only possibility to come into the game is too stomp the enemy in the early Game, but the ratios are so fuckin bad i lose to almost every one even with Fervor. There are many Lanes I cant win. There used to be Pantheon which was like impossible but for me, im not Ximen just a normal player, I cant lane against the majority of the champs. Shen is almost impossible, Rammus is even worse than before, Malphite is cancer, Tryndamere used to be equal, both he and me are 2/2 I cant do shit against him, Nautilus before HydraBC is super difficult. I know I play a late game champ, but that shouldnt be a reason to lose against every one. I dont want a new Main but why should I play a champion which is trash without a giant lead and just play Malphite/Zed/Lux and steamroll the enemies anyways.

So please Riot give us some Buffs, We dont need Titanic Ravenous is much more cooler but please its awful to be fuckin useless when you are 0/2. Those Nerfs were trash and in the completly wrong direction we arent playing AD Fiora now, most of my Reddit clan isnt even playing Fiora right now. 70% of them just play some better Champs like Malphite, Jax. Like 90% are better than Fiora at the moment.

20 Comments

Big Lincoln3/28/2016, 3:14:12 PM4 votes

so Fiora is losing to champions that naturally counter her?

sounds like good nerfing to me

StickyOctopus3/28/2016, 3:28:16 PM4 votes

I'm personally glad they nerfed fiora. She was the most cancerous champ in the game for a while, along with tank yi of course. Having her in the game at her prior state wasn't fun at all for everyone involved, except the fiora player.

Having a 90% winrate in pro play was an obvious indicator that she was beyond broken. Now that she as freelo as before, only the good fioras will do well. Not like before where you just got to faceroll an emey team with no consequences and an overloaded kit.

Thank you rito for the nerfs <3 They were well deserved.

Ðoggo3/28/2016, 3:24:30 PM3 votes

Wow you really must hate Fiora. She isnt op in any case, try her out and you will feed ur ass off. " Muh Fiora % max true damage""muh fuckin op"

WoonStruck3/28/2016, 3:22:12 PM2 votes

A) Good riddance

B) Tanks SHOULD counter her early game. Especially armor stacking ones.

C) She's a hypercarry. Her early game SHOULD be difficult. Now you actually have to outplay someone with her 4 tools that allow you to do so rather than just beating on them with occasional true damage to brute force a kill.

D) Feeling useless when you're 0/2? Wow. Welcome back to the world of melee, Fiora.

E) Wrong direction? Sorry, no. Its the perfect direction. Riot hit the nail on the head with this one.

RogueWill3/28/2016, 3:33:06 PM2 votes

you shoudl feel useless if you are 0/2,..why woudlnt you? why would the enemy have to kill you twoce to be equal to you?

AlwaysByMySide3/28/2016, 4:43:33 PM2 votes

Anyway, statistically Fiora is objectively garbage right now.

http://champion.gg/champion/Fiora

With that said, people are also still building her bruiser, which is a playstyle Riot intended to kill with her nerfs.

With that said, only whiny little sissy boys complained about bruiser Fiora, a champion with an average play rate who did, in fact, have a low win rate early on and was in fact weak to really high damage laners like J4, Tryndamere, Renekton, Quinn etc.

Personally? I think she's probably gutted, but we'll see how she performs when people start trying to run her AD "like intended", though like with Master Yi, I get the feeling that full AD Fiora is probably a pile of shit.

Critmaster Garen3/28/2016, 6:37:35 PM1 votes

i think ad fiora derserves some buffs.

one of the problems she has imo, is that her kit only scales with 2 offensive stats. this gives her an incredible amount of room to build defense while bringing decent damage.

for a normal bruiser this might be fine, but fiora has extra outplay potential in her kit, because shes expected to build very squishy. having the outplay potential of a melee adc with a tank/damage ratio of a bruiser is the real issue.

i think the base idea of her kit is fine, but her passive and some of her abilities should get the same treatment as jhin and yasuo.

  • make her passive scale with attack speed and critical strike aswell as bonus ad
  • change riposte in a way that it has a really long initial cooldown like now, but scales down with cdr aswell as attack speed, like yasuos q to a MUCH shorter duration than now. its the ability in her kit that lets her pull off a squishy carry build in melee.
  • change her e to not make critical strike wasted on her

the effect this would have, would really make a squishy carry build effective on her, while severely nerfing her bruiser build.

it would incentivize her to build items like infinity edge and essence reaver to increase the damage on her passive, and sustain herself with mana in extended fights.

warpenguin5553/28/2016, 4:39:19 PM1 votes

She has bad match ups now? Can't come back as easy? Good. This is how she's INTENDED to play. She's not supposed to be able to thrash a Rammus or Malphite easily.

Crett3/28/2016, 3:20:55 PM1 votes

Everyone I know hates Fiora's guts.

If she gets buffed, I hope to god her laning phase is kept down, because. It's really not very fun to play against her. Not to say she shouldn't be fun to play, tho.

What I mean to say is I hope she's buffed in a way that preserves everyone's sanity.

For the sake of her mostly evil playerbase.

cuz i know. i just know, if they lose her, most all of em are gonna jump to Katarina or Irelia or something.

and the Hell Dimension they create will overtake the Rift

Verxint3/28/2016, 3:24:27 PM1 votes

U wot m8?

Over 150k on Fiora here, she's still strong. Git gud.

Thund3r Ang3l3/28/2016, 9:49:56 PM1 votes

Lul, I wanna point that Shen Counter Fiora, So do malphite and rammus... They are good vs ad who rely on auto attack --' They nerfed fiora to shut down her stupid bruiser build and force her to build AD.

She was extremly tanky while having utility and huge damage and she is, on top of that, a super splitpusher. Win ratio Rarely mean anything.

For exemple, Mid lane Varus, lissandra, leblanc, azir and Lulu on champion.gg they are all below 50% win ratio and they are really good champion overall... Kalista has one of the worst win ratio. Can we all say kalista isnt the worst adc.