please, those mana buff and cdr state and ap nerf just seems so stupid and it seems like you only care about lcs so that people can pick ryze and abuse all the state perfect for ryze lol
nelogis1 votesDoesn't the additional mana give more AP with the full staff than the AP they took?
Heard someone say that the -30 AP are compensated since the mana buff gives +32 at the end, could be wrong tho.
It's better for Ryze yes but not worse for Karthus I think (Hey I mean +2 AP is +2 AP amirite)
XdeathitselfX1 votesno its a hugh nerf for ap users because the old one gives almost similar ap state so its a nerf
Kaìju1 votesHow is it a nerf if it gives more AP and CDR now?
LostFr0st1 votesI'd have thought Karthus would enjoy the new buildpath and cdr. Is that not the case?
Mysticman891 votesYou might find you'll want mana a lot more than previously, where morellos took care of most of your mana needs, so having the large mana pool even on non-mana scaling champs may be much more desirable.
Mawootad1 votes20% cdr on Archangel's is undoubtedly better to have than 20-30 ap or whatever it's losing, especially on Karthus who realistically gets +25% dps on his q and 30-40 seconds off on his ult from that.
ProfDrDeath1 votesWell, Karthus doesn't get that much from CdR for Q spam if he needs to reposition as well.
But the CdR is still nice to have with the ultimate, and with the buff to Deathcap he should ultimately get access to more AP than before.
paisy1 votesBut they just nerfed Ryze?
ProfDrDeath1 votesLive Seraph's gives 1000 Mana and 110 AP.
AP rework Seraph's gives 1400 Mana and 92 AP...and 20% CdR, which is much more valuable than 18 AP.
Additionally, Deathcap gives 5% more AP. You need 240 AP in addition to the big hat to be better off than before - which is a fully stacked RoA + Seraph's + path bonus.