Kass armor nerfs

Ultrys·1/24/2019, 3:07:26 PM·1 votes·1,171 views

I saw a lot of people laughing and joking about how silly those nerfs to Kass armor base and growth looked.

Now I'm not exactly certain how everything works, but, I too, thought those nerfs wouldn't mean much.

I was low diamond, I'm pretty awful I know, and I play kass sometimes when he's available. I'm probably just horrible at Kassadin anyways but Let me tell you, when you play Kass vs a jayce or zed or talon now, you are going to feel the pain.

There is almost NOTHING that will keep your butt in lane. No potion, no playing safe, hiding under your turret. Just take TP and use it on cooldown to try to get farm. There is no amount of armor or HP i could've built to toe to toe their fed ADC or their renekton or their Jayce at any point in the game.

I won the game I'm referring to by making smart picks, which is probably how Kassadin should be played.

However, I built zhonyas and iceborne gauntlet fairly early. I had the seraphs staff shield also. I also built an abyssal mask for HP and MR. I hit a Lucian with multiple maxxed out lvl 16 ults, used seraphs shield, and my full combo. Now I must say i got hit for an 800 damage karthus ult while dueling him, but I didn't even break the Lucian's GA before he melted me. I almost did though.I couldn't go NEAR the renekton at any point in the game even full build (tanky)

The jayce absolutely SLAMMED me in lane it was embarassing. It took me so long to catch up its a miracle the game went long enough.

Now Kassadin has ATROCIOUS base damage to his spells and abilities. A giant chunk of his damage comes from multiple uses of his ult. That's fine, it means he's a lategame scaling champion. He's kept this way to keep him in line. Currently AD mids are very common, and I'm just warning you. If you lock kassadin, and they lock an AD mid.... ouch. Good luck playing that game.

7 Comments

Daddy Ants1/24/2019, 3:28:06 PM1 votes

Kassadin should get slammed in lane.

He's a Hypercarry.

He's also meant to be more vulnerable to AD damage.

Jamenawerl1/24/2019, 3:28:27 PM1 votes

"AD mid" xd

I still have have PTSD from Orianna's autos when I played Kass. Who gives a shit about Zed in lane lmao.

Your damage doesnt (only) come from ult stacks, it comes from his three 80% AP scalings. You dont build "tanky", you go full AP and delete the carry in 2 spells. Then zhonyas and out or rinse and repeat.

Ultrys1/24/2019, 4:17:32 PM1 votes

I wish you luck. Try to play Kassadin in lane right now and have someone pick AD and tell me what you think. Its an auto lose condition right now. That's fine by me I'm not Kassadin enthusiast. But there isn't any counterplay and there isn't any lane. And I dont mean lose lane, I mean unless your team can carry a 5v4 or hold turrets until 40 minutes, you lose the game. I do think that the game shouldn't be guaranteed to be won from champion select though.

I typically play AP mids. So from now on I'll just leave him open, and if someone picks him I'll lock in talon and the game is a 5v4. free win until people realize you can't play Kassadin into AD.

Opens up a ban slot fine by me.

But seriously, it's a little bonkers when zed can 100-0 a kassadin now who is equal level without even ulting. Zed doesn't need to have a large lead or be fed. Just his W>q>E>aa>ignite if it all lands will kill you from full hp. Even if you rush a seekers armguards. So essentially you can't be in the lane even pre-6.

In fact I'm tempted to believe someone messed the coding up somewhere or there is a bug. A katarina who had ONE complete item and one level on me did 70 percent of my HP with one combo through my Q shield without even ulting.

I'm actually now wondering if someone messed something up. If you don't believe me, go try it out and see what you think.

Ultrys1/24/2019, 5:17:30 PM1 votes

You do not autowin every mage matchup.

Fizz: beats you if you dont get some help. Malzahar: beats you post 6, scales nearly as well, shoves wayyyy better early. Heimerdinger: beats your ass into the turret and submission, then kills your jungle. Cassiopia: destroys you pre 6 unless you did ok. Galio: obliterates you Neeko: destroys you Mordekaiser: destroys you

Here is a list of COMMONLY PLAYED MID AD champions that will absolutely eliminate your ability to play the game for 30 minutes as you try to catch up if you can in time.

Jayce Zed Talon Urgot Quinn (not so common) Pyke Yasuo Aatrox Lucian (maybe not so common) Pantheon (also not as common)

not saying kassadin should be autowin but... i guess just wait and see.

Infernape1/24/2019, 5:19:12 PM1 votes

He's the squishiest champ in LoL in terms of armour/armour per level.

People were memeing about it and I did say those nerfs were huge.

You can no longer first pick Kass. You have to use him as a counterpick to mages.

Ultrys1/24/2019, 7:53:22 PM1 votes

even as a counterpick to mages though, vs lots of them you lose until 15 minutes into the game. And thats only if you don't fall too far behind. Am I missing something here?