has really high aoe burst
but is really short ranged, and needs flash most of the time
also her killing someone requires a full rotation, without her ult, she's pretty lacking which is a big con of hers
what do you guys think of annie though?
Anisoptera6 votesThere is nothing balanced about an incredibly powerful AoE point ad click stun with no cast time.
Range doesn't matter, she has ridiculously easy farming so its hard to fall behind, and can still dump TIbbers down without any counterplay. Quite possibly the most braindead, overpowered champion in the game.
Bleediss2 votesThere is nothing balanced about an incredibly powerful AoE point ad click stun with no cast time.
Range doesn't matter, she has ridiculously easy farming so its hard to fall behind, and can still dump TIbbers down without any counterplay. Quite possibly the most braindead, overpowered champion in the game.
she requires flash and other champions like xerath can easily poke her down though
mainly just creating a gap between you and her to where you can poke safely is what's important
Anisoptera4 votesPoking her down is not the concern. Her ult needs more counterplay, thats as simple as it gets.
Bleediss2 votesPoking her down is not the concern. Her ult needs more counterplay, thats as simple as it gets.
why nerf a balance champ?
Rico Nasty3 votesyou have no valid reasoning whatsoever, you just keep yelling about how apparently balanced she is.
Lugg6 votesAnnie has been God Tier for about a year. She needs a slight nerf. If they made her passive only be up for 10 seconds, she would be balanced. The fact that she can literally hold on to her stun forever is what's broken.
Stellafreyja2 votesAnnie has been God Tier for about a year. She needs a slight nerf. If they made her passive only be up for 10 seconds, she would be balanced. The fact that she can literally hold on to her stun forever is what's broken.
Agreed. That would definitely help balance her. I've watched people play Annie and that's all they do. They get their stun and then for their lane opponent to get just close enough to use it and then burst them down.
Manwalrus4 votesThat she's super broken. Her range doesn't really matter too much because once she gets in range she'll obliterate you even if she's like 0/3 (one of the few champs in the game that can still do that) Also she gets a stun every four spells, 3 of her abilities are nukes, 2 point and click, 2 AOE (and riot thought Veigar had problems) Her Q gives her free sustain farm from range and until recently her auto range was bullshit. Not to mention that aside from her ult her other abilities have stupidly low CD and you CDR on her. Also her needing to use a full rotation to kill someone is possibly the only balanced thing about her, did you want her to 1 shot with her Q or something? Oh wait, she already does if she's ahead. Her E doesn't thematically make sense. And finally she's super easy to play, anyone who feeds as Annie is terrible. But yeah, "balanced"
BeatzBoyFTW4 votesEverything about her is Point-&-Click, kind of like Ryze's successor after his rework. She deserve some nerfs or a lil rework with her abilities, especially her Flash+Ult+Stun combo. It deals ridiculous damage at early levels, worse when she grabs 
Juggernaut N2 votespretty balanced
Rico Nasty2 votesHer stun is bullshit, she needs a new passive. Click to win playstyle. Quite toxic.
Bleediss1 votes[{quoted}](name=karma or feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uoeGguMd,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-06-18T04:01:17.664+0000)
Her stun is bullshit, she needs a new passive. Click to win playstyle. Quite toxic.
yet she's perfectly fine, learn to play better maybe?
Rico Nasty1 votesIf you think a champion with an instant long-lasting stun, an insanely high damage AoE ability, crazy burst, a free minion (Tibbers), and a spell that deflects most damage is balanced, you seriously need to learn how to play this game. Also, there is NO counterplay for her other than dodging her W. And even that has a stupid range. Really, get over yourself.
Popstar Ahri1 votesHAHAHAHA omg.... I cant believe G&B are ignorant unlike GD...
M Schumacher1 votesLow elos should learn to stop back talking diamond 1s or higher. If someone from bronze has an opinion that differs from a diamond, the bronzie should NOT try to reason with the high elo. He shouldn't ask why either. He should take what the diamond says as fact without talking back. Too many times, I've seen a bronzie backtalk a diamond, and it's disgusting, because the bronzie is wrong most of the time. The only time a bronzie is right is when 500,000 bronzies are talking back to a single diamond. There's a reason why you're stuck in bronze. It's because you think differently than the diamonds. Start thinking like a diamond.
Popstar Ahri1 votes[{quoted}](name=M Schumacher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uoeGguMd,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-06-18T00:14:10.239+0000)
Low elos should learn to stop back talking diamond 1s or higher. If someone from bronze has an opinion that differs from a diamond, the bronzie should NOT try to reason with the high elo. He shouldn't ask why either. He should take what the diamond says as fact without talking back. Too many times, I've seen a bronzie backtalk a diamond, and it's disgusting, because the bronzie is wrong most of the time. The only time a bronzie is right is when 500,000 bronzies are talking back to a single diamond. There's a reason why you're stuck in bronze. It's because you think differently than the diamonds. Start thinking like a diamond.
your a genius sir
Bleediss1 votes[{quoted}](name=M Schumacher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uoeGguMd,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-06-18T00:14:10.239+0000)
Low elos should learn to stop back talking diamond 1s or higher. If someone from bronze has an opinion that differs from a diamond, the bronzie should NOT try to reason with the high elo. He shouldn't ask why either. He should take what the diamond says as fact without talking back. Too many times, I've seen a bronzie backtalk a diamond, and it's disgusting, because the bronzie is wrong most of the time. The only time a bronzie is right is when 500,000 bronzies are talking back to a single diamond. There's a reason why you're stuck in bronze. It's because you think differently than the diamonds. Start thinking like a diamond.
bows
i'm sorry but
i was diamond elo on my smurf
i forgot pass and name but please believe me
Chessburger1 votesSo many opinions, so little validity in this thread :D
doubleguac1 votesI'm not sure if she's overpowered, but I hate playing against Annie.
Her burst damage is off the charts. Incredibly high ratios and decent base values on three abilities. She also has surprisingly high sustained damage, on account of her low Q cooldown and tibbers.
She has counterplay, but it's very binary. The counterplay to annie is "stay out of her range at all times, or else you will get point-and-click stunned and bursted." That's all well and good if you're playing a champion with longer range than her. But there are relatively squishy champions who simply cannot do that, and they get totally screwed by her without much recourse.
I would be very happy if tibbers got the "corki Q" treatment (in exchange for buffs elsewhere, if needed). She'd still have a point and click stun, but at least tibbers would have a bit more counterplay.
Bleediss1 votesabyssal scepter and barrier actually work well against her
VeryGreen1 votesShe is not balanced at all. She doesnt need a full rotation. She can play as a poke champion too.