how league of legends feels at first and then how it feels now

Bleediss·Jul 5, 2015·79 votes·5,200 views

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let's be honest here

58 Comments

LaowPingJul 5, 201521 votes

I personally still enjoy league. At it's worst you'll have some toxic people doing stupid shit but with the steady stream of new champs and the variety of game play it's always a shit ton of fun.

BleedissJul 5, 20155 votes

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I personally still enjoy league. At it's worst you'll have some toxic people doing stupid shit but with the steady stream of new champs and the variety of game play it's always a shit ton of fun.

to me looking at how balance was when i first joined and how it is now is super depressing

JamareeJul 5, 20152 votes

I'm not sure it was objectively better, though I did have more fun because my favorite role was broken.

Rinky DinkyJul 5, 201517 votes

The game is statistically more balanced now than it has been in a long time.

Chicken BotJul 5, 20153 votes

yeah ill agree on that, even now there are still some champions that are a bit stronger than they should(ap ez) but overall they aren't the super destructive champion that existed, like ap master yi or kassadin, holy crap kassadin was so unfun to play against, even if you were winning the lanning phase it would still be able to solo kill you with ease

ShinjusukeJul 5, 20151 votes

Way to jump on the bandwagon and have no clue what's going on.

AP Ez isn't overpowered, runeglaive was just bugged in a PBE MATCH and was acting far more effective than it should've for Ez.

The amount people on these forums who just watch pro games and think they know anything about anything regarding game balance is horrifying sometimes.

TheSaltyScourgeJul 5, 20154 votes

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Way to jump on the bandwagon and have no clue what's going on.

AP Ez isn't overpowered, runeglaive was just bugged in a PBE MATCH and was acting far more effective than it should've for Ez.

The amount people on these forums who just watch pro games and think they know anything about anything regarding game balance is horrifying sometimes.

Bitch that ap ez runeglaive shit started before pros did it.

WingsofGulgazorJul 6, 20151 votes

^^ and when everygame the enemy ezreal feeds 0/8 then 10 minutes later his ult passes through 20 minions and deals half your health and then later kills you with arcane shift and a W not even needing his Q. I guess he might not seem to bad if you only play super tanks but all the carries can't do anything against him and there really isn't a counter to ezreal mid if played right since the bad matchups he can just Q and play passively then be more impactful later in the game.

Rinky DinkyJul 6, 20153 votes

His ult has nothing to do with runeglaive.

If you use anything other than his Q as an argueing point, than AP Ez has been OP for a long time

NinjaFifer19Jul 6, 20152 votes

The damage falloff of his Ult means that his teamfight AOE presence is very lackluster compared to traditional mages. Of course he's a nightmare for carries. He's an AP assassin, just like Leblanc. Compare your apples to apples, and group up and play to your champs strengths.

meecusJeromeJul 6, 20151 votes

I feel like the biggest difference in that comparison is that ez can deal that ridiculous damage from anywhere on the map, whereas lb actually has to dive in and put herself at risk to 100 to 0 someone

NinjaFifer19Jul 7, 20151 votes

Globals (aside from GP's) are unreliable. Besides, if he hits anything on the way there, he loses so much damage it only kind of tickles. Most jungle camps knock off 30% of it's damage right there.

Leblanc is exposed for less than a second. She can hit you with a Q, ult Q, and chains then bounce back to 1300 range faster than anyone except Annie or Ryze can CC her down. Granted, most people will screw it up and miss the chains or let a CC hit them, but if you can assume Ez hits everything, you can assume LB hits everything too.

ShinjusukeJul 6, 20151 votes

and people like you only started whining like children when pros did it correctly.

It wasn't "OP" before it got the pro spotlight, and it isn't now.

Be careful, that bad--I mean "band"--wagon is balanced well, sometimes people fall off, hit their head, and end up unable to think for themselves anymore.

TheSaltyScourgeJul 7, 20151 votes

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and people like you only started whining like children when pros did it correctly.

It wasn't "OP" before it got the pro spotlight, and it isn't now.

Be careful, that bad--I mean "band"--wagon is balanced well, sometimes people fall off, hit their head, and end up unable to think for themselves anymore.

I hope you werent responding to me. AP ez sucks ass.

NinjaFifer19Jul 7, 20151 votes

I always liked AP Ez, but he had his weaknesses. With trailblazers and Runeglaive, he can kind of mask his abysmal waveclear, so I think he's in a healthy place. At the very least, he needs to lose the Luden's proc on his Q (a bug thanks to RG converting his Q to magic damage). Once that's gone, his primary poke tool won't be as oppressive, and it should leave him healthy and able to compete with traditional mages.

NinjaFifer19Jul 6, 20151 votes

Hostile response, but correct. The bug where Ez can proc spell effects (Luden's being the main offender) on his Q is what gave him a lot of power. AP Ez has always been decent, but had abysmal waveclear. RG with trailblazer makes up for that, and the conversion of Q's damage to magical means that, thanks to the MPen he's already building, he doesn't lose much damage compared to Lich Bane. I think that RG is healthy for AP Ez, once they get rid of that bug.

Avios1Jul 5, 20151 votes

The AP Master yi and Kassadin of today are leblanc/Katarina...

slipstreemJul 6, 20151 votes

the guy that only played AP tryndamere up to diamond 1 or challenger or whatever it was until people realized that letting tryn INSTANTLY heal for half of his health or more every 8 seconds on a mostly resource-less champ was a bad idea (ap tryn didn't really care about fury other than to make heals stronger).

shadecrapperJul 6, 20151 votes

AP tyrn sounds like the most usless champion...

Chaotic ReksJul 6, 20155 votes

old kassadin: PENTAKILL PENTAKILL PENTAKILL PENTAKILL do you even rift?

VDc0zCqe0wJul 5, 20152 votes

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The game is statistically more balanced now than it has been in a long time.

tell this to tank support dominating botlane every game since season 4

WingsofGulgazorJul 6, 20153 votes

the games always been relatively balanced. I mean taking or adding 50 health to a champion will bring it from the most broken thing in the game to being way underpowered. People always say s1 and s2 was more balanced but that had a lot of things like release xin chao and Daruis and TF and then s3 and s4 people all complained about the balance then and people always have complained about it. But people tend to forget when you first start the game you have no idea how to tell what's op and what's not especially since you usually don't differentiate between higher skilled people and new players and none of the new players including you can't play the op stuff right and things like teemo seem broken to you at the time. Then when your more experiened you learn some stuff is stronger and then ask why it's not the same as season X when you didn't know about gameplay and balance. Which is why it sort of makes me a little peeved when people say S1 was the golden season when no one cared what you played or did so it was the best. But it really did have meta's even then that were popular and as mentioned all new players don't know about gameplay and balance so they didn't know what was strong or good and even now a team full of new players will play just like people did in s1.

Rinky DinkyJul 6, 20153 votes

I wasn't aware Annie Morgana Janna and Nami were tanks.

That's not even mentioning the solo queue supports whom do very well ( Sona Zyra Velkoz Karma )

Karma and Sona are seeing pro play in lpl and korea, along with the first 4 mentioned. What is your point exactly?

VDc0zCqe0wJul 6, 20151 votes

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I wasn't aware and were tanks.

That's not even mentioning the solo queue supports whom do very well ( )

and are seeing pro play in lpl and korea, along with the first 4 mentioned. What is your point exactly?

Nami: never played since spring Annie: built and played as a tank (you do realize RG and Talisman =/= AP support?) Janna and Morgana: ok i guess, that makes 2 supports out of something like 8 tanks when did Sona actually see play in LPL and Korea? i'm genuinely asking because i kept track of that and i remember maybe 1 single game

don't use solo queue winrates to say Zyra is in a good spot, that's bad logic for a champ that's never been played anymore since 3.13 (2 weeks and that was it), where are Malzahar nerfs then?

lDontLiftIcarryJul 6, 20151 votes

balanced = broken new 2012+ champs are all that saturate top tier play because fuck you.

I liked season 1 bruiser meta because at least tanks/bruisers when fed actually threatened the game.

Now it's just "oh I'm fed, well that'll matter once the adc gets 3 items and does 500+ crits every auto because IE+yomuus+LW ruins any point in buying any armor and even if I do he buys blade of the ruined king next and punishes me for getting hp too"

Rinky DinkyJul 6, 20151 votes

I mean, I guess that happens if your trash and blindly run in with singed or something.

Thats not the game tho. That's just a lack of game knowledge holding you back

meecusJeromeJul 6, 20151 votes

As someone who plays adc, it is not that simple. If a bruiser gets ahead and your team cant peel for u, u get killed instantly and can't do much damage. As adc it really comes down to positioning and if the opponent is fed they can zone you are just kill you. It comes down to skill at that point imo

WeFlyNoLieJul 6, 20151 votes

I don't know when you started playing LoL, but did you enjoy things like release Xin Zhao?

Maybe release Lee Sin?

The game is much better now than it was. Anybody who disagrees is fooling themselves.

Midder ScrayJul 6, 20152 votes

The community is the main thing I hate about League. Whenever you make the slightest mistake, they'll start saying shit like "gg" or just constantly harassing me or other for the rest of the game

Angel ViolétJul 5, 20156 votes

That's true for any video game. League actually has a very good long-lasting appeal IMO

Chicken BotJul 5, 20152 votes

honestly say what you will the game has managed to feel fresh thx to some much needed changes, some didnt work out and got changed but over all i do feel its for the best and the game is much better now than it was 6 months ago

RivvyJul 5, 20154 votes

There is a lot of magic that you get at the start, its so great. You try out your first few champions and actually have fun leveling up. That magic just starts going away after awhile.

gubigubiJul 6, 20151 votes

Or the balance team/casual-focus takes its toll slowly over the years and it becomes garbage. RIP WoW

LucidLunaticJul 6, 20154 votes

Honestly, I've had the opposite experience. I found learning the game and grinding up to 30 to be immensely frustrating. I made stupid mistakes, knew I was making stupid mistakes, and was having my teammates take it out of my hide rather than helping in the vast majority of cases. It seemed like I was playing with as many smurfs as other newbies, and they would just take over games and abuse the other players. I also had no sense of value for how to manage my IP, the relative importance of building a champion pool vs. runes, and so on and felt leagues behind. This isn't particularly surprising, and I don't really blame Riot for much of it. While they could improve the onboarding experience for new players it is an area they are aware of and working on. It is a difficult problem. League is a very mechanically complex game, with lots of moving parts, and enjoyment will naturally increase along with mastery.

As a result, I now enjoy League a great deal more. I've been able to gather people I enjoy playing with on my friends list, started climbing the ranked ladder, and start learning multiple roles. I started as a support main simply because it was the role that nobody else wanted, and that was the only way I could reliably get practice in a single role. I've now gotten to the point where I can pick up jungle and top, and am now working on mid/adc. There's a huge range of champions and playstyles to explore. I just got Yasuo as my free champ and tried him out in a custom vs. bots. I'm terrible with him, but had a blast. I'm going to train up on him incase I ever need to fill as an AD mid. The future is bright.

Sadistic LozerJul 6, 20151 votes

League is love, League is life.

stealthfox94Jul 5, 20152 votes

I remember when I was like level 16 and carried with Teemo every game. I laugh at that now. With that being said I enjoy it better to some degree now.

SwampmajikkJul 6, 20152 votes

yup. I remember when the game seemed so cool and fun. Expansive and interesting. Then you realize everything is pigeon holed into specific roles, the community is full of assholes and you barely have the nerve to queue up let alone find the game fun anymore..

ObericJul 6, 20152 votes

Made me remember my early days of carrying with "Useless Soraka who does nothing", rally promote with innervating locket aoe-healing, and the AP boots (sorcs used to give AP).. ahhhhh How Riot has ruined my favorite champion.. No longer gives armor, no longer has her resist aura, no longer restores ally mana pools, no longer shreds resist.. Lost her heal-over-time over 5 years ago, I still miss that (and Teemo's old passive. lol) Good rework anyway, but those are the reasons I picked her.

They really should make a support built from the discarded remains of other supports.

TwitchInMyPantsJul 5, 20151 votes

TBH a lot of the issues with the game are with the poor management and the massively inflated champion pool. When the game was smaller it was easier to keep healthy. S5 definitely isn't my favorite season tho I think it'll get better as Riot has more opportunities to patch up their mistakes... tho they really take their time.

TransgressorJul 5, 20153 votes

What you consider a massively inflated champion pool(LOL what?) is what's keeping the game fresh and interesting. S5 started like shit because they introduced the new jungle without fucking the shit out of those oppressive champions who where guaranteed domination over the meta, and turned the game into a cancerous chore. Jungle and itemization changed to the healthiest state of this season so far. Further roles' itemizing changed(adc, AP is going to change soon, Black Cleaver etc etc), champions got gutted while the clasic dominators are left as is, the balance team makes choices without any sort of reasoning and most importantly communication, the lore is non existant, etc etc.

Riot's communication has been rather subpar this season. the problem lays on the executive departement, there's nothing inherently wrong with the game, but with executive decisions.

GenghisEmoJul 5, 20151 votes

I still enjoy it, but the poor balance, the struggling devs trying to push diversity so that the same op champs keep being played or someone exploiting an item, the toxicity really kill it.

I still really like it, but i always have to tell others like a sort of disclaimer "the game is has several new champs most if not all op, mean ppl everywhere, just unlock a few champs since the others just have identity crisis (including the op ones... an assassin that is tanky as Braum or Garen and takes sesveral turret shots and still gets a triple kills and walks away??? Makes no sense).

Still fun though.

Sadistic LozerJul 6, 20151 votes

If braum is solo diving and getting a triple kill.. he's either a god or your team sucks. Just being real.

GenghisEmoJul 8, 20151 votes

Or you have poor perception skills when it comes to reading XD. Braum is not an assassin, instead the Assassins are as tanky as Braum. I didn't say "assassin Braum" i said "an assassin that is as tanky as Braum". two different things.

Sadistic LozerJul 26, 20151 votes

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an assassin that is tanky as Braum or Garen and takes sesveral turret shots and still gets a triple kills and walks away??? Makes no sense.

"An assasin that is tanky", thas not my perception skills, thats poor grammar.

GenghisEmoJul 27, 20151 votes

It actually is poor perception. You are thinking "A tanky Assassin that is Braum" from what it sounds like, while i wrote, "An Assassin that is tanky as Braum" meaning that an Assassin (which are not a tanky class) still being Tanky enough to survive 3 turret shots, as if they were playing as a tanky champion, for example a Braum (which is a tanky Champ that can survive several turret shots since that is pretty much their job as a tank). It is poor perception, with lack of in-depth description, but enough information was provided to lead one to a conclusion since it contains enough context. In this case, to reach the conclusion that Braum is not the one solo diving and getting a triple kill, but instead a champion that belongs to the Assassin class. Had i capitalized the "A" in Assassin, it might have helped perceive things a little different. Furthermore, i could have exagerated a bit more to get the point across with "tankier than Braum or Garen" instead of "tanky as Braum or Garen" to help facilitate the message that was trying to come across.

But if the perception is different, the conclusion and context reached is different.

So one more time, "A Tanky Assassin tanky as Braum", which is not the same as an Assassin Braum Triple Killing while tower-diving. TWO different things.

Yes, there might be some poor grammar sprinkled in there, but enough context was provided. Almost like you skimmed through it and failed to truly perceive the while paragraph and only got two main things "Assassin" and "Braum". But overall, your conclusion seems like it was due in part to poor perception, while i could have been a bit more detailed.

83sqojSQ6jJul 6, 20151 votes

10/10 would agree again.

Bonk BoyJul 6, 20151 votes

I've always had a simple rule with myself. Have fun. I don't play ranked (ranked still doesn't matter in my eyes, its all a game isn't it?) and I've always had the mentality that if you're playing a game and not having fun then you should stop playing that game. I have fun even when my team loses because either way, I'm playing a furry little dinosaur that turns into a big furry dinosaur, or a dude who really really knows his stuff about air currents ( Yasuo ). I have fun because I enjoy the gameplay of the game, I enjoy the art style and I enjoy the characters. I still try my hardest, but I don't get stressed if my hardest isn't enough.