Played Sylas on pbe. Riot, are you feeling okay?

Dynikus·1/8/2019, 11:23:01 PM·145 votes·29,270 views

I'm prepared for downvotes for complaining about a champion before they're even released on live. I thought Neeko was actually decently well designed, and riot was going in a good direction with new champions not being overloaded messes.

What the actual fuck is Sylas though? Objective overview of his kit:

Passive - AOE auto that deals 100% AD(+?AD (not sure if it's a ratio or a fixed amount per level))(+20% AP)

Q - long range controllable X shaped aoe with a 2 second, 35% slow. explodes after .5 seconds at the center of the X to increase that slow 50%. 9/8/7/6/5 second CD (5.4/4.8/4.2/3.6/3 with 40% CDR) 45/70/95/120/145 (+60% AP) (same damage on explosion) Slow is 15/20/25/30/35% (+50% from explosion)

W - Medium range targeted dash that heals him, does bonus damage on enemies below 40%, and bonus healing if he's below 40%. 60/90/120/150/180 (+55% AP), 90/135/180/225/270 (+85% AP) on champions below 40% Heals for: 50/100/150/200/250 (+40% AP), 100/200/300/400/500 (+80% AP) if he's below 40% 14/13.5/13/12.5/12 second CD (8.4/8.1/7.8/7.5/7.2 with 40% CDR)

E - short range dash that gives him a shield, followed by a long range gap closer with a .5 second knockup. 60/90/120/150/180 (+90% AP) shield 50/65/60/95/110 (+20% AP) gap closer 10s cooldown at all ranks (6s with 40% cdr)

R - Copy any champion's ult 85/50/15s CD (51/30/9s with 40% cdr) Can't steal the same champion's ult twice for twice the length of their cd (modified by his cdr, minimum 20 seconds)

tl;dr: You gave him 3 dashes, a knockup, a slow, an empowered aoe auto after every abililty, a heal, a shield, and the ability to use enemy ults every 9 seconds at max rank with the incredibly easy to get cdr cap?

295 Comments

Lhuhz1/8/2019, 11:42:30 PM120 votes

R - Copy any champion's ult 85/50/15s CD (51/30/9s with 40% cdr)

What the actual fuck

hotarse1/9/2019, 2:17:49 AM40 votes

Toxic Mobility? Check Humanoid character? Check Gamebreaking ability that forces players to reconsider what champs they can play? Check Gamebreaking ability that will be a balancing nightmare? Check

Par for the Course, Riot game! 2019: more of the same.

A Kniƒe Cat1/9/2019, 4:25:46 AM18 votes

There is no possible way for him to be balanced with numbers alone lmao

He's gonna be another "broken or useless depending on how riot feels this month" champion

Honestly at this point we have enough champions. They should dedicate more time to fixing what's already shit instead of introducing more shit that will need constant fixing

Beacon Academy1/9/2019, 6:19:50 AM17 votes

Come on Riot... There are FOUR abilities and ONE passive.

But somehow he gets:

AoE Auto Attacks Large flat Damage Execute Damage Heals scaling with Execute Damage Many Dashes Slows Gapclosers + Knockups Shields

Jesus now imagine if he had all that and an ult like Neeko's...

######Ohwait.

Agent Corgi1/9/2019, 12:32:24 AM16 votes

He can Steal an Enemies Ultimate every 85/50/15 Seconds, but there's a cooldown on which champions he robs. It takes the Cooldown of his Targets Ultimate & scales it up by 200%. the amount of time that totals up to is how long Sylas has to wait between robbing the same target. Granted, his own CDR can affect this effect's Cooldown, but only to a minimum of 20 Seconds.

For an Example, Karthus's Ultimate [R: Requiem] has a cooldown of 200/180/160 Seconds. If Sylas jacks Karthus's Requiem, Sylas will have to wait 400/360/320 Seconds before he can Steal Karthus's Ultimate again. This is assuming Karthus doesn't have any CDR ofcourse.

Hexs Fortune1/8/2019, 11:23:57 PM15 votes

Can R copy allied champion ults as well?

Moonscourge1/9/2019, 2:31:44 AM13 votes

Keep in mind that Ornn ult had 30 second cooldown at max rank too and then got massively increased. Let him make it to live, see how it works out then he can still get changed.

Bent Pixels1/8/2019, 11:28:21 PM13 votes

Any ultimate ability that has a 15 second cooldown at max rank with no CDR is busted. Some Q, W, or E abilities aren't even that low at max rank. Wtf

AMADEUSdotEXE1/9/2019, 5:52:40 AM12 votes

First summoner spells, now ults. What's next? An item thief??? ** "NYEH YASUO I'VE TEMPORARILY INCONVENIENCED YOU BY STEALING YOUR LONG SWORD WHICH I CAN ONLY DO EVERY 15 MINUTES NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK"**

DaoMuShin1/9/2019, 12:19:22 AM12 votes

Perma-Banned before he was even born..

AMADEUSdotEXE1/9/2019, 4:06:21 AM11 votes

tl;dr: You gave him 3 dashes, a knockup, a slow, an empowered aoe auto after every abililty, a heal, a shield, and the ability to use enemy ults every 9 seconds at max rank with the incredibly easy to get cdr cap?

It's like you just described Crazy Wizard Riven with a whip.

You have my attention.

Hethalean1/8/2019, 11:29:48 PM9 votes

As the opponent of Sylas, do you have any indicator that he can use your ult?

Also an ult every 9 seconds? Not fun? Well it's unique, and that's the point ~Riot lol

ArfBarkBoof1/8/2019, 11:57:04 PM8 votes

Did you really expect a CertainlyT champion to not be loaded to the brim with stuff that would make him a balancing nightmare?

KARABICA JEBAC 1/9/2019, 5:25:26 AM7 votes

Seems season 9 will be balanced as previous one.

riplol

Quadzz1/9/2019, 10:12:50 AM6 votes

Hi! I found a video about what happend if Sylas catch Nidalee, Jayce etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXnRe-N-LI8 Check !

The most OP champ.. 80%+ bannrate is coming D:

Mc Raton1/8/2019, 11:32:04 PM5 votes

AP Juggernaut who have no good itemization and can take anyone ult with 9 sec cooldown... fun as hell.. Riot are really dumb.

Abibyama II1/9/2019, 12:01:55 AM5 votes

Well his ult can be useless depending on the enemy's ult.