Class Update Question for Rito Devs

Beldair·Mar 22, 2016·2 votes·3,206 views

With this upcoming update to some immobile mages: I was wondering something.

Ok, so we have the Juggernauts (Morde, Skarner, Garen, Darius, and Illaoi).

And then you did the tweaks to 6 of the Marksman.

And now y'all are doing work on some Mages.

My question is: Will there be upcoming updates to a group of Assassins like with the mages and marksman? Also, will a group of Supports ever get that treatment too?

I'm not asking this because i really really want a lot of changes to them...i ask because i'm curious if y'all are considering it or not.

15 Comments

RiotMeddlerMar 22, 20165 votes

Our expectation is that we'll do another class update at the end of the year in the preseason. Tentative thinking is we'll continue with them next year as well, though that's a long way off and could change of course. Assassins are a likely class at some point, though diving fighters and initiator tanks also have some strong arguments in their favour.

BeldairMar 22, 20161 votes

Thank you for that quick response.

Photos of GhostsMar 22, 20161 votes

Do you think you'll ever subclass mages like you're doing with the Yi to Sion spectrum?

RiotMeddlerMar 22, 20162 votes

Yes. We've got a blog being worked on at the moment that outlines the different subclasses we've identified, so in the same way that some fighters are juggernauts mages have different subcatgories too (e.g. artillery's a subclass with extremely long range and weakness in most other areas that contains champions like Ziggs, Jayce and Xerath).

DeathBurstMar 22, 20165 votes

Any ETA? No promise attached, just to get an idea.

######Jayce an artillery, really? Despite his hammer form?######

L0ve Is BlueMar 22, 20161 votes

Any news about Zyra? The lane chosen for her balancing in the update has been pretty controversial and a big majortity of her player base made it clear they'd like her to be balanced around mid, yet it's been 5 days and we haven't got any news about this...

Photos of GhostsMar 22, 20161 votes

c: by 2020 maybe I'll get all my close-range tanky mages to be well-defined and viable and I'll spam them in all roles including devourer jungle :3

Photos of GhostsMar 22, 20161 votes

I also wonder where Cho will end up. Tanky with health stacking, great range on Q, great AoE cc and damage on W, huge size for bunker tanking, powerful melee autoattacks, melee true damage burst. Great for counterengage (hit and nom their frontline), peel, engage follow-up, and flash assassinations. I have no idea what he is.

Lord BoltrixMar 24, 20161 votes

I have to be honest with you, Cho'Gath is all over the place, and while I do love that I can take him as a mage or a tank or even an ap brusier, it's hard to define his niche considering everything you did mention. He's almost like a juggernaut in that he brings a lot of damage and tankiness to a fight but is quite immobile, the range that he can cast his knock-up honestly is all that argues against him fitting the juggernaut theme.

I'm not saying that he should be reworked into a juggernaut, I just consider him a juggernaut who is uniquely specialized to fill the role of either tank or mage on top of being a bruiser.

Pika310Mar 22, 20165 votes

Meanwhile supports have been virtually untouched since 3.14. Since then, you've already reworked Jungling and ADCs twice each. Most supports are growing more obsolete as time passes and the names being added to that outdated list continues to increase.

ElindiirMar 24, 20161 votes

Supports are of a number of categories and a large number of them will be updated with initiating tanks.

Also, older supports that drift off from balanced get individually reworked (Like Soraka )

QuephaMar 22, 20161 votes

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Our expectation is that we'll do another class update at the end of the year in the preseason. Tentative thinking is we'll continue with them next year as well, though that's a long way off and could change of course. Assassins are a likely class at some point, though diving fighters and initiator tanks also have some strong arguments in their favour.

I think diving fighters need the most work since it always seems like there are one or two of them that are good and a huge pile of them that are garbage, but it might be better to do assassins before them just so that you have a better idea of what makes assassins good and bad before doing the class that's basically the heavy-assassins.

warpenguin555Mar 22, 20162 votes

{quoted}

Our expectation is that we'll do another class update at the end of the year in the preseason. Tentative thinking is we'll continue with them next year as well, though that's a long way off and could change of course. Assassins are a likely class at some point, though diving fighters and initiator tanks also have some strong arguments in their favour.

weren't we supposed to get a list of what groups/classes you guys wanted to hit in the Dev Corner/

Cryo00Mar 22, 20161 votes

Do you guys think assassin mages will ever get a class update ? (Looking at LeBlanc, Akali, Katarina, Diana, etc)

SlashStrikerMar 24, 20161 votes

Why not tag SUPPORT Next?

I wanna play MID and TOP but why am i waiting so long to get matched in Queue? It says 1:50 and i am waiting times and times longer than it should be.

Can riot show some Data about which role is most picked and which is less picked? Why do i wait so long to get a match? I can't imagine people in higher elo who got waiting time of 1 hour to get into a game. Dynamic Queue is already out of a month or more and you got no info on that what is most played and what is not?

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