RIOT-- Just rework Annie.

Blumpkin Nation·Nov 13, 2016·3 votes·870 views

I'm sick and tired of outplaying her initial bullshit that is insta-gib and then dying to Tibbers because he's allowed to stay alive and go retard-strength on everything after the little 8 year dies.

I don't understand why this is an okay mechanic on someone who can burst you and have an AI kill you when she doesn't even need that. If she can't 100-0 you with her abilities, it's her fault, but she still gets Tibbers after she dies which is like getting a mulligan.

You're basically punished for killing Annie while Tibbers is up. WHY? PLEASE WHY.

6 Comments

Resonance x LFTNov 13, 20163 votes

Come on man. How can Riot baby you any more? You have ways to avoid her stun, and even cleanse it if need be. For fucks sake they added a stun counter, and made the ultimate flashable. Annie is a short range mage, so play something with oppressive long range. Annie is a husk of her former self, and calling for constant nerfs when she isn't meta is pathetic.

Blumpkin NationNov 13, 20161 votes

That isn't the point. They added that (I don't even know why; it wasn't an issue before). But it doesn't stop her from 100-0 people even if she fucks up the combo and doesn't stun you.

I'm just saying-- I do NOT understand why they let Tibbers stay alive after she is killed. It was a completely unnecessary change to her kit. All they had to do is reduce her stun to 1 second at all levels. We didn't need a counter on the stun above her head. She didn't need lowered damage.

But they added enraged Tibbers for what reason? It doesn't make sense. That'd be like giving Heimer's turrets an AoE explosion after he dies so they can kill secure. Why?

If Riot wants Annie to play around Tibbers they should have nerfed her base skills and then give her different skills while Tibber is summoned. That would make more sense than anything else.

Resonance x LFTNov 14, 20161 votes

The AI is garbage on enraged Tibbers, and that only happens once Tibbers has been cast. Literally, you're complaining about Tibbers that will likely go after the wrong target, stand there jerking off, or maybe if you're lucky enough to have it go after the right target, it has a chance to get a return kill. If you're that low, and Tibbers comes to maw your ass without an escape, you don' goof'd.

This isn't a new mechanic. Sion has far more CC than Annie, and he can actually control himself after dying. I don't understand why you're complaining about a much worse, buggy, mechanic.

Blumpkin NationNov 14, 20161 votes

You do realize they amplified/corrected the AI on Tibbers, right? He doesn't just stand there when you go into a bush to remove sight or do anything else. He continues to chase champions much better than he did before they corrected it.

REGARDLESS of what you think, they had no reason to give Tibbers extended life outside of Annie's. Sion is his passive and thematically fits. Annie is supposed to be this little fire starter conjurer. Who knows which she is because she does both so well. Tibbers has better AI than Yorick's minions and Yorick is SUPPOSED to be a summoner.

I'm just saying; Annie doesn't need extra AI power in Tibbers when she is dead. Everything else can stay.

Brutalitops01Nov 13, 20161 votes

Uhh... Stun it? I dunno, they only put that on her with the mage update in the midseason, so it's fairly new, fairly unnecessary, her damage never got lowered to compensate, and I feel like it just made her a bit too strong. I don't think she needs a rework, but I do think she needs a delay on W and R and lower damage on her abilities to compensate for the bear ripping you limb from limb if you don't kill it first. Him 300% movement speed and attack speed every time she gets a stun or dies is kinda stupid, and at the same time if someone who wasn't the focus target of her burst kills her the bear runs after them, making it super unsatisfying if they got away with more than 200 hp.