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Can someone teach me how to not get killed when ever someone dives on me as malzahar? please?

SuperNova0079·9/2/2018, 1:42:45 AM·4 votes·4,309 views

So. Played some ranked mode with the character who has the coolest battle boss skin aka . Everything was cool, ez farm with voidlings and malefic visions. Till one time just dived on me. Just dashed to me and there was nothing I could do. My ult stopped him for a bit. Then he just resumed killing me.

My passive helps, unless he just AAs me and it's gone for 30 seconds. Try to punish him for it but NOPE he just uses my minions to dash away.

A lot later in the game all the enemy team had to do was just dive on me by any means necessary. I would die all the time. Even with my ult. There was no way I could punish that. I would just die. I do not feel safe going into team fights as because I know that, when I am dive bombed, I am dead. So what be's those counter plays for them divers ya knows?

Of course my team is like." INT FEEDER!."" TROLLER!"

How the hell am I supposed to NOT feed as . I cannot stop people from diving on me unlike old where his void lings actually were scary little bastards and made my enemies run away from me.

Anyways I feel like a wounded Gazelle instead of a champion. And the angry jungler will one shot me at any moment and I have little to do against that. My all in combo will not kill until I have like 800 ap. So all I can do is sit under tower to avoid death. Even that won't save me in the late game though. So my team says I'm feeding, won't fight in team fights, and is afking under towers.

SO IDK what to do.

"you just do not know how to use ."

my response: okay than how do i use him? if you are going to state a goal without explaining how to reach it do not bother telling me. Unless it is a goal about how to improve the champion that you are unsure how to accomplish than please tell me. I can help with that.

people say Common goals without explanations on steps to reach them.

"farm better." "don't die" "wrong items and runes" "learn how to use him" "DON'T SUCK"

so please tell me how to survive a dive with . will help for about 18% of the game. But what about the rest of the game? during the time Where I can't kill anything but minions, how do I contribute to the team without feeling like i am just a gazelle with a broken leg?

[sg-lux-2]

69 Comments

Beacon Academy9/2/2018, 2:39:20 PM6 votes

I did not read anywhere in your post that explains what you actually do in a fight/team fight.

Malzahar is no longer the scary prophet for the void.

In other words, he doesn't have the burst to be a carry in most games now-a-days due to shorter match times.

When you play Malzahar, you are playing as a secondary support.

You may get solo lane experience.

You may get solo lane gold.

You may get items that a mid laner usually takes.

But none of that matters.

All you're going to do is play like a bitch, survive the laning phase, and stay by whoever is carrying the game while protecting them with your ult and silences.

This isn't back in season 5 or prior where you could catch someone out and kill them.

If you do that now, your team usually won't react fast enough and you'll be exposed to death.

AdeJBug9/2/2018, 3:12:24 AM3 votes

if ur ignoring rune suggestions and play style suggestions alike to begin with, why make this thread?

Lord Helsing9/2/2018, 3:41:32 AM1 votes

I highly highly suggest you look at a few games played by dia/master malzahar (don't look at challenger/pro play, it won't help you at your level)

some examples: http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=lilililillll

http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=%EB%A7%88%EC%8A%A4%ED%84%B0%EC%B0%8D%EB%8A%94%EC%8A%A8%ED%86%A0%EB%A6%AC

http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=masalzahar

those have recent games you can watch. You click the camera icon, download the .bat file, open it, and that automatically starts up the replay for you (give it some time to load, and it crashes sometimes)

That should help you see how you should be playing malzahar so you don't feed stupid champions like yasuo

good luck friend

SuperNova00799/2/2018, 4:21:06 AM1 votes

Based on what you guys are saying, there seems to be no way to survive being dived on as malz. you guys seem to be ignoring that part.

Crimson Zeppelin9/2/2018, 4:28:14 AM1 votes

If it is a 1v2. Accept your fate.

If it is a 1v1 combo and one shot. It is simple as malzahar.

Crimson Zeppelin9/2/2018, 6:57:35 AM1 votes

https://imgur.com/a/RRgezAV

And for your argument that Malz cannot oneshot. Here is proof I can easily do it.

With only three doran rings. Zero kills.

Paroe9/2/2018, 1:53:56 AM1 votes

Your W? Never use it unless your jungler is gearing for a gank or youre pushing on purpose.

Your E? Use it sparingly. You do not want to push very hard.

Your Q? Bread and butter harass and E reset.

Pick up a banshees veil to soak his two CC's, and unless you have an ally nearby make sure you dont go past your third of the lane; Most champions will just push and try to keep you under tower... WHich your E and Q can easily counter.

Better Jungler9/14/2018, 11:54:45 PM1 votes

Not reading all that.

Don't be alone. build zhonyas, qss or merc scim. Play a champ with a spellshield. Play a tanky champ and build mr. ban him in draft phase.

Poro Lord9/2/2018, 3:39:17 AM1 votes

"Are you saying I should just stay as close to tower all game?"

I would say YES.

low lvls, your spells wont instant clear waves, so you gotta use your wand, and actually work at CS, while staying back as far as possible.

Probably missing a few CS early.

As soon as your spells are doing more damage, you just clear the wave with E-W, and maybe Q, then BACK THE FUCK UP.

Get lost chapter item 3802 as soon as possible, and get right back to mid.

Shoving each wave, while staying as close to tower as possible.

Interact with him NEVER.

After lane phase is over, just push waves away from your towers, then go follow team.

If you push far from a tower, and Yasuo finds you, he is gonna 1v1 kill you.

Only push if you SEE HIM ON MAP.

Malzahar is all about brainless non-interactive lane pushing, or team-fighting.

Not dueling random fighters alone.